Disappointed
I think you guys really should stop all this!
WHY, Hideous are you keeping this alive, the fight with hagood and dr wong? Has Dr Wong done something to you?
FT:(
Hideous, you are a coward.
Hideous,
I know you will have to get out your rather large thesaurus and use extra big words when you see this post in response to your rather negative diatribes about Dr. Wong and another person you insist on calling the “fat man”.
Funny that you never have publically named yourself. That makes most of us wonder who you are and what you are about. You have something about being the troll extraordinaire or what? Or is it more along the lines that you cannot face yourself or others with the knowledge of who you are?
I have never met Dr. Wong, but that does not make me want to slander him. If you are saying that this so called “fat man” is who fiercest tiger alluded to, Mr. Roger Hagood, then we have some serious trouble between the two of us.
I have met with Mr. Hagood face to face and have felt his hand. His skill is not that low level as you claim it to be. He has never showed me anything other than respect on many levels, and I consider him to be a friend as well as a senior to whom I look up to for his dedication to SPM.
Have you ever met him and touch hands? Or is this another of your “I have seen him on tape enough to fully judge his skills?”
You are insulting and a total coward who cowers behind his screenname as so many others do on this board. Catchy names do not make you better at anything other than showing others you have some slight amount of imagination.
Stop insulting people like Mr. Hagood and Dr. Wong. Like you said to TNWingchun about waiting when someone attacks you or someone you know. You recently have started all this crap, and here I am up in arms about it.
You want to start insulting people, then be a real man and come out of the woodwork and tell everyone who you are and where you come from. I do, and you don’t see me cowering in my house worried if some creep is going to show up at the door. Would be great to Kong Sau, it has been a while since I had one.
Your are the plague that has been created from cyberspace being invaded by too much fantasy and not enough time drilling your hand/skill.
Keep it up, you are showing us so much with your long drawn out rants about skill and power. Not!
What do you have to hide? I am a real person, why can’t you be one as well?
In Boston,
Dale Dugas
Dale Dugas [Who?] - I have never met Dr. Wong, but that does not make me want to slander him.
Irrelevant as you are no one, my friend.
Dale Dugas – If you are saying that this so called “fat man” is who fiercest tiger alluded to, Mr. Roger Hagood, then we have some serious trouble between the two of us.
A rather nonsensical statement and one that lacks merit or bite. [Meow] little kitty, now do be good and go back to playing in your sand box.
Dale Dugas - That makes most of us wonder who you are and what you are about.
You must be rather fat yourself to consider your voice and presence to constitute [most of us], would you not agree, my friend?
Dale Dugas - Or is it more along the lines that you cannot face yourself or others with the knowledge of who you are?
Neither guess is even remotely correct. Please do not quit your day job, my friend. The economy is in a down turn and you fail utterly as a psychic. Oh, do stay away from the race track as well, my friend.
Dale Dugas - I have met with Mr. Hagood face to face and have felt his hand.
Irrelevant as you are no one and possess no skill, therefore, you have nothing with which to craft a valid opinion, my friend.
Dale Dugas - His skill is not that low level as you claim it to be.
Please see above.
Dale Dugas - You recently have started all this crap, and here I am up in arms about it.
Actually, you are in way over your head in crap, my friend. Please confine yourself to playing in your sand box, [Meow] kitty, [Meow].
Dale Dugas - Would be great to Kong Sau, it has been a while since I had one.
It is very doubtful that you have ever had one my rather boisterous friend. Your pathetic attempts at threats are as is your skill, non-existent.
I do find it amusing that of all the various groups in the SPM family, yours and yours alone, is constantly embroiled in urinary Olympiads. Yet, the simple truth of the matter is that none of you do anything more than posture and pose. There are some people waiting for the fat one’s return. They are in Minnesota, and they have some beginner students to accommodate your professed desire to engage in gong sau. They have been waiting for over 8 years now and the fat one’s contention that he recently showed on their doorstep is a blatant falsehood. The fat one [called by telephone] from Chicago and [asked] if he could visit their school. He was told [no] as he had violated his oath given during bai shi, and this was not the first time the fat one had done such a disgraceful, dishonest, self-serving and egocentric based thing. Unknown to the fat one this conversation was recorded. Typically, you and other members of your decidedly pathetic lot embroil others in a flame war in order to compel the Forum Mod take down the entire thread as none of you can withstand the light of truth. Typically, the fat one employs his [lawyer fu] to pressure forum Administrators into taking down perfectly legal posts. This rather antiquated tactic will not play in this arena, my friend. You are a complete fraud, my friend, and you have earned your position on my Ignore List. Your attempt at inciting a flame war of challenges is effectively extinguished and your efforts at manufacturing a reason to have the thread taken down have failed, my friend.
Cannibalism is unequivocally a valid dynamic for all societies. I am, Hideous.
FT - I think you guys really should stop all this!
Agreed, my friend, agreed.
FT - WHY, Hideous are you keeping this alive, the fight with hagood and dr wong? Has Dr Wong done something to you?
Indeed not, my friend. I found Dr. Wong to be an honest, sincere, decent, scholarly and pleasant person. The silence by those who know better and should have taken a corrective course of action long ago is the sole reason for my pursuing this matter, my friend. Now that the matter has been properly set forth before the public, I consider the matter closed, my friend.
Cannibalism is unequivocally a valid dynamic for all societies. I am, Hideous.
Im a kitty? What are you into beasitality or something??
Now have to step back and bow to you oh unknown master of nothing but warm flatulence. Funny that you can make your posts look all cool with quoting me and then answering underneath like some of those old short essay answers our teachers from grade school liked so much. Too bad it doesnt do anything.
I am no one? That is true on some levels and on others it is not. I am actually a real flesh and blood man. You are just a silly screen name who attemtps to show all the board you know much more and in greater depth. You really do not do a good job of it.
But at least I open the door and let people see who I am. You can go on about how I am this and I am that. At least I tell it like I see it. I have no political agenda unlike yourself. You should rename yourself, as Hide My A.S.S. as you are a coward. I think you have no inkling of the true definition. Go look it up and then get back to us on this.
You don’t have to agree with anything I say as that is the great thing about opinions, they are our own. I can say that your opinions suck and you can say the same thing of my own.
I agree completely that we can have this urinating contest until the cows come home.
But you didn’t touch on the fact that I did what you asked TNvingtsun to do. I am standing up and saying “Hey, you faceless coward-boy! Here I am and I think you are full of you know what!”
Though you seem to want to be some form of stand up comic.
You don’t have a lot of material and seem to only want to dredge up enough drek on others. Especially those people who you get into your squinty little eyes for some reason or another.
You must be some skinny little stick that has no confidence in themselves or their hand/skill/pai. You must have learned nothing but meaningless brocade legs and embroidered hands.
Im the bully, but you can sit here and go on and on about how you know the real secrets and all us others are wasting our time. Man, I gotta love that. Who trained you? Where did you get this great training?
You are funny.
In Boston,
Dale Dugas
Strange days, indeed.
Hideous :
I for one can be counted amongst the ‘most of us’ who wonders who you are, irrelevant or not. Particularly to me, as I know no-one of whom these discussions are based on. Wonder I do, nonetheless.
I also wonder why you make this statement “Irrelevant as you are no one and possess no skill, therefore, you have nothing with which to craft a valid opinion”?
Can you therefore craft a valid opinion on the subject matter? If yes, then why? On what basis? Do you make your assessment of the target for the above statement by knowledge of the individual, or by his teachers, or pai?
Mark
Sanjia – I for one can be counted amongst the ‘most of us’ who wonders who you are, irrelevant or not.
Your wonder is wonderful, my friend.
Sanjia - Can you therefore craft a valid opinion on the subject matter?
Yes
Sanjia - If yes, then why? On what basis?
Please see earlier posts wherein I set forth the provisions, context and scope of my posts, which are all personal opinion based, nothing more, nothing less.
Sanjia - Do you make your assessment of the target for the above statement by knowledge of the individual, or by his teachers, or pai?
[Target] is such an ugly and harsh word, would you not agree, my friend. In answer to your other questions the answer is [Yes] to all of the above.
Cannibalism is unequivocally a valid dynamic for all societies. I am, Hideous.
Thanks Mark
Mark,
Thank you for braving the waters of the illustrious man who can tell you that I have no skill and am nothing more than a big pest. You signed your name and I have signed my name. But this person? He is not anything but a coward who really needs to learn that the more you hide, the more people know you have nothing to offer. I came out of the woodwork as something was mentioned about someone who I know personally and respect.
Being that Hideous has never met me nor knows my skills, his postings are full of it to say the least. At least I name names, least of which my own. Love how you kept saying the fat man with low level SPM skills. That says boatloads about you.
He is nothing but another Turiyan clone. Full of nothing but what he gleamed from books and his moms rantings.
In Boston,
Dale
FYI
Hideous does not know Dale Dugas,
Dale has touched hands with Dr. Hagood,
Dr.Wong is in TN.
Dale Dugas is in Boston
I have never met Dr. Hagood.
I have met Dr. Wong.
I have met Louie Jack Man.
I have met Gin Foon Mark.
I have met Henry Poo Yee.
I have pictures of myself with most of them.
I know little to nothing about SPM.
I do know about Bak Mei Pai,
I do Know about Lung Ying Pai
and I do know that You would have to be one hell of a fighter to take on Dale Dugas and stand a chance.
His Iron Skills are trained in an insane manner and unlike most of the wannabe fighters out ther Dale actually fights for real.
He has fought full contact in asia and has worked as a bouncer here in the states in a club that actually needed him on a regular basis. He has been stabed and had bones broken only to heal and come back stronger.
Dale is an example of a hard working, dedicated and disciplined martial artist.
He has fought through sterotypes and racism to get to trian in some of the material he has trained in.
He has not sold himself out for money or fame, in that reguard,
he is no one.
But he does exist. He is not afraid to tell his name. He is not afraid to show his face.
I can assure you that he is not afraid of what little skill Hideous may have obtained by eating chips and typing on her computer while watching Kung Fu Movies wishing she was somebody special.
The people who actually train don’t go around insulting everyone else unprovoked.
They know how hard the work is and respect that.
It is unfortunate that this board does not require real names for acountability. But then I guess many of you would not use the board. No fantasy to hide behind.
Who am I?
After 22 years of hard training and long consideration I am proud to remain another nobody.
Daniel Eckart
Muncie, In
Daniel Eckart - [Meow] oh my, yet another little kitty has lost his sand box. This Ignore function is wonderful, would you not agree, my friend?
Cannibalism is unequivocally a valid dynamic for all societies. I am, Hideous.
what is up with your fascination with kitties
Kitties and no names. Oh boy, the all supreme Chu Gar Gao master has shown his true colors at last. He sees kitties everywhere as he is one and cannot get the image out of his brain.
Thanks for the support, Daniel. Very succinct and to the point.
Peace,
Dale Dugas
Hideous : “In answer to your other questions the answer is [Yes] to all of the above.”
You make yourself clear now, that is all I need to say.
Dale : “Thank you for braving the waters of the illustrious man who can tell you that I have no skill and am nothing more than a big pest. You signed your name and I have signed my name”
Indeed, Dale, indeed. I hope you are well, sir.
Perhaps I will be a ‘kitty’ now.
Hideous : Ever watched how a cat [kitty] will ‘test the waters’ with his paw [claw]?
Mark
ok fella’s “the proof is in the pudding”?
hide i’ll make a bargain with you.[see how good your hand is]
you sort dale gayal out and i’ll sort san the little man out.o.k?see if you dare guys to call my bluff.
dale you print out where you live and your name[real name]
mark you give me you surname and your address[school,house it doesn’t matter]and i bet you hide i’ll have it sorted out faster than you?
lets see who’s really hiding?and lets see if you’ll challenge anyone else?
and let it be a lesson to you.hahahaha
Cool, Kool, Kewl, Kuil!
Cool,
If you guys are gonna gong sau make some videos up and put them on here. This way we will all be able to dissect the internal aspects of all these different gings and see which type is better suited for a fight.
Then we can have more who beat who on video debates.
Sounds kuil huh?
TAO
Pak Mei Student:
What was that about annual Pak Mei founder celebration?
sui : “mark you give me you surname and your address[school,house it doesn’t matter]”
Bluff called dip****, you had my name and address, remember?
Now, you tell me your name, and your address, oh yes, and who taught you?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Mark
sui :“lets see who’s really hiding?and lets see if you’ll challenge anyone else?”
This is rich indeed from someone who has never given a name, or even a country.
Pray tell when did I challenge anyone? At all? Well?
I shall tell my teachers teacher who I will see in a few days that a nameless, faceless typist challenges that he will come and beat me up with his superior Pak Mei skills, taught to him by, errr, someone.
I wonder what he will say?
Mark
Hidious-Its not up to you to decide or dictate what actions
my brothers,school and Sifu took or will take reguarding
this issue.
This is water under the bridge as far as I’m concerned,my Sifu never felt the need to clarify to the public as to what took place in 1996,so as a mature adult you should not concern youself to amplify this past event,if you have bad relations with the other person in question,I suggest that you take it up with him, as far as my conections for information,well,thats none of your business.
As a matter of fact and public record this event that took place
six years ago is none of your business and its not your place
to keep it alive by dragging my Sifu’s name into it,this will be the last thing I have to say about this issue.
As far as Dale Dugas in Boston is concerned,I have spoken to him on many occasions and enjoyed every conversation we’ve had,I don’t care if “He has fought full contact in asia and has worked as a bouncer here in the states in a club that actually needed him on a regular basis. He has been stabed and had bones broken only to heal and come back stronger.”
We’ve shared some of each others personal life experiences and I find him to be a nice guy,if I ever make it up to Boston I’m gonna look him up so he can buy the first round!! 
He’s just trying to get things stirred up Dale,let it slide bro and don’t waste your time on this guy.
Now I’ve got to get some sleep,its off to the beach with the kids,
be back next week.
One more thing,YAWN!!!
About what kei lun said,Pak Mei Student,can you expand on this??
tnwingtsun - I hope you have a safe and wonderful vacation, my friend. All your associations and conversations with those who continue to support the fat one who lied and then publicly disrespected the one you call Sifu must have you very tired out in deed, my friend. I have no personal experience in such matters, howsoever, I do believe that constant betrayal must be very draining, rest well my friend, so that you can betray some more.
sui - I am most sorry, my friend, but there is a party planned in St. Paul for the mommy kitty, likuei, or Horse Tamer, by whatever name he hides behind when disrespecting others. It is after careful consideration that I conclude that [the fat one] is the best name for this one. Some honored guests will be there and I yield to their superior stature. They are so very kind and considerate that they have even insured presents for all the kitties of the fat one. Put the kitty kats on your Ignore List as they truly love to play with balls of string, my friend.
Cannibalism is unequivocally a valid dynamic for all societies. I am, Hideous.