I’ve been interested in Pak Mei and the other Hakka styles for a while now, and was wondering if any of you guys can help me…
When i’ve looked on the internet and things about Pak Mei, there seems to be a number of common sites. Most of them have a different number and/or order of forms… I was just wondering what could have caused there to be such a difference? I mean with things like Wing Chun, it’s pretty standard that there are 3 unarmed forms and 2 weapons… Maybe they have slightly different names (especially the knives), but they’re still kinda standard across the board.
I know Hakka styles and particularly Pak Mei are secretive, so was just trying to figure things out… maybe you guys can help?
Where do the rest of the forms come from? Are they Li Gar and Lung Ying or something?
Also, i thought there was meant to be another form after those four and weapons as well? (at least i read that on http://www.dryqwong.com).
I’m just trying to find an authentic school here in the UK. Does anyone know of one?
Hey FT, i looked at your website How does your YKM actually differ from Pak Mei? From some of your other posts, they seem to be very closely related…
The difference is the name, ykm changed its name when the grandmaster went to hongkong to teach.
YKM is from guangzhou canton, we have the same sets of course, a few differences in the way we move will also depends on teacher and the way the student is taught also there abilities. But look all over the world, pak mei is different from every teacher as long as the recipe is the same all the principles are the same you should have no problems learning it!
another level after the fierce tiger exits the forest..if you are talking about 5 elements then maybe there is, maybe not Its said it was only talked about but no form, maybe made up by clc sons!!
Cheung lai chung learned three styles 1) Lung ying, 2) lee ga,
and 3) beggar /vagabond style. the weapons come from either lee ga or beggar/vagabond style. Also as mentioned Cheung lai chung taught many people differently some with palms, or claws
some with Lung ying bows other with the white eyebrow bow.
I read and was told this by Pak mei practitioners and Lung ying Practitioners.
where does the other forms come from? Well my guess for the hand forms are:-
Sup Ji - vagabond
Tay Sart- vagabond, but I have also heard that this is original Pak Mei (from CHuk Fat Wan)
Sarm Moon - Lee Gar
Sei Moon Bat Gua - Cheung Lai Chuen’s creation
Ying Jow Lim Kiu - Dragon style
There is a person name Lee Kwok Pui. He is famous inside of London Chinatown. Everyone knows him. many pak mei sifu knows him. He fought with Bruce Lee in Lee’s family kung Fu association.(Many Pak mei circle know this. You don’t have to believe it.)
Nevertheless,He is very good. He is the first inner disciple under Cheung Bing FAT. Lee Kwok Pui has the form of Cheung Bing Fat, not the external expression of Cheung Bing FAT.
Originally posted by CannonFist I heard that the Earth Spirit Set came from Chuk Fat Wan from an old time practitioner of Pak Mei in Melbourne who was originally from China.
Thanks.
Earth spirit Set = “Fighting/killing on the ground” form?
Please tell us about Lee Kwok Pui and Pak Mei in London.
I know of one UK Pak Mei sifu, long silver hair and beard, twinkeling eyes. Not a thin man. I have seen him on video from Guangzhou.
I believe there are 2 or 3 Pak Mei sifus in London, is that true?
Day Sut - I will half agree with your sifu. There are some parts that are rather acrobatic and very difficult to execute for their limited advantage, but there are also many techniques that are very useful, that only appear in that pattern. It has the most kicking of all the patterns, if you like kicking. I have come to really like that pattern, granted, my execution is somewhat “laboured” <grin>.
Originally posted by sanjia
[B]Pakmeistudent :You should! He is famous even in Pak mei circle.
Yeah Ok , right, lets see now, a person with no name, no profile, no address and no information tells people here that they should somehow know a famous person.
Now this person may or may not be ‘famous’ in Pak Mei circles, in London.
I will ask the question.
This is me:
Mark Standley
Address in profile
Pak Mei student under N.Stray/Lee Kwong Wong taught by H.B.Un and Chow Fook both taught by Cheung Lai Chuen
Who are you? [/B]
I guess you are trying to prove how good you are.
“Pak Mei student under N.Stray/Lee Kwong Wong taught by H.B.Un and Chow Fook both taught by Cheung Lai Chuen.”
I see. You are trying to say "my lineage is pure.
I am qualify to judge. "
I keep my mouth silence, is that mean i don’t know anything?
I don’t announce my lineage. Is that mean I don’t know anything?
