Personally I think these are just excuses. Traditionally the top fighters were the tigers of wu lin because they fought constantly.
In the modern age we cannot engage in street fights all the time.
But there is always the ring to apply our techniques, whether it is Muaythai, Sanda, MMA, Kyokushinkai (and offshoots), shootfighting, etc… some have big boxing gloves and some have small gloves.
And if you want no gloves I’m sure you can find people who can accommodate you! But trying to say that you teach “effective, practical material” when someone doesn’t have actual fighting experience is also a lie, in my opinion.
thoughts?
PS - looks like Black Taoist was helping training this guy for his fight.
yeah a pathetic guy trying to mouthbox his way up. MT guy was just playing with him at points thought it was funny. MT guy even got a RN choke on the dude and he had, looked like 16oz, boxing gloves on.
Personally I think these are just excuses. Traditionally the top fighters were the tigers of wu lin because they fought constantly.
In the modern age we cannot engage in street fights all the time.
But there is always the ring to apply our techniques, whether it is Muaythai, Sanda, MMA, Kyokushinkai (and offshoots), shootfighting, etc… some have big boxing gloves and some have small gloves.
And if you want no gloves I’m sure you can find people who can accommodate you! But trying to say that you teach “effective, practical material” when someone doesn’t have actual fighting experience is also a lie, in my opinion.
thoughts?
PS - looks like Black Taoist was helping training this guy for his fight.[/QUOTE]
thoughts, well if your trainer has never been in a competative fight and your sparring partners suck you are in for a bad day
[QUOTE=Frost;1039482]thoughts, well if your trainer has never been in a competative fight and your sparring partners suck you are in for a bad day :)[/QUOTE]
Maoshan/Blacktaoist and Maoshan’s student DJ apparently calling out NakMeezy to fight in the ManUpStandUp tournament…
Personally, honestly I have seen DJ’s fights and if Nak is serious about making a statement he could REALLY hurt the guy. Also they wanna do looser rules/no rules/or something like that which IMHO is worse for them as well as Nak has some rudimentary ground game and you add elbows and knees to the face and it’s a whole different ballgame as well…
[QUOTE=Violent Designs;1039491]Maoshan/Blacktaoist and Maoshan’s student DJ apparently calling out NakMeezy to fight in the ManUpStandUp tournament…
Personally, honestly I have seen DJ’s fights and if Nak is serious about making a statement he could REALLY hurt the guy. Also they wanna do looser rules/no rules/or something like that which IMHO is worse for them as well as Nak has some rudimentary ground game and you add elbows and knees to the face and it’s a whole different ballgame as well…
my 2 cents[/QUOTE]
that whole scene seems like drama to me… lots of talk, not many fights… like the sensei mo thing…
I guess I’ll go on my rant for the day. Lots of talk, poor display by the Bagua guy, sour grapes after. Sometimes I wonder when this sh**it is going to end. Basically there are two types of martial artists, those who say and those who do, period. I respect people who step up to challenges but if you lose, you lose. Learn from it and move on.
But that is my philosophy and few share it. I think lots of TMA folks are too egotistical to state their flaws. This would be a great opportunity for the guy who lost to study and see what he did wrong and work on improving his game where it had holes. But instead we will see more excuses of the ring isnt the street and other such garbage. Yawn.
this is what happens when u get trapped by forms. when u get trapped by fantasy and living in perpetual childhood. an entire life wasted and without meaning
its ironic how when a cma stylist says that what they do is a good way to be a good fighter and then they agree to an mma or kickboxing match and proceed to train in boxing and bjj… wtf??? so theyre training is good enough but they choose to use the training methods from other combat sports??? rediculous…
its almost as bad as a guy saying his chinna works on the ground and then proceeds to use bjj theories to execute these cma locks…
some people will just never understand… they see the same locks and think its the same… a straight arm bar is a straight armbar and people see that and with ZERO understanding they say “see its the same” without ever realizing the difference is in the approach…:rolleyes:
whats sad is for “internal” kung fu this guys teaching is actually pretty high standard
this is what happens when u get trapped by forms. when u get trapped by fantasy and living in perpetual childhood. an entire life wasted and without meaning
dont try to use kung fu to escape your life problems and make yourself feel important[/QUOTE]
i would like to see the results of somebody like these guys training bagua hard, every day, light to full contact sparring and basic fight prep… if they applied their art to the ring and actually trained for that…
do you think that a bagua cat and a muay thai cat that put the same amount of time in the ring sparring would be competetive at a proffesional level???
oh, and that whole iron ring thing was just embarrassing… all these rappers walking around like theyre tough… there was so much insecurity manifesting through ego, it was just sad… that whole episode was a waste of time space and money… i dont know who should be more insulted, mma cats or hiphop cats…
shonie carter has some funny views on the show and the people involved… these people were laughable… way too concerned with image and apearances, not so much concerned about hardwork and practical training… these are the kinds of people who think kimbo was hardcore based on a few clips of punching out rookies on steroids and looking mean… i wonder how these gangster thug types felt when their hero got one punched by a 3rd string crossdressing waterboy in seth petrazulli… like, how could some man-tongue licking, dress wearing, always pretending to hump males in photos beat a man who is the epitome of thug toughness??? people associate skills with appearances way too much… alot of guys get knocked out because of that kind of thinking…
how many times have we seen a nerd in highschool finally breakdown, fight back, and absolutely destroy his tormentor bully??? i’ll never forget watching this thug type at my school picking on this gigantor retarded kid… gigantor manhandled him so bad… he was forever branded the guy who picked a fight with a retarded kid and got dummied…
[QUOTE=Syn7;1039560]oh, i’ll never forget watching this thug type at my school picking on this gigantor retarded kid… gigantor manhandled him so bad… he was forever branded the guy who picked a fight with a retarded kid and got dummied…[/QUOTE]
