http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=6h-gev8goEI&NR=1
finnally a good bagua fighting video. in my opinion that guy in the white shirt did a dam good job expressing bagua under pressure
No, he really didn’t.
Dizzy watching that guy.
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Nobody gives you their hand to walk round and round with.
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Walking round and round does not mean its Ba Gua. It means someone wants you to think they look like Ba Gua. Ba Gua is all about what happens after contact.
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With the opening side blade kick from a distance, round house and axe kick… better representation of Tae Kown Do.
One also has to understand levels.
Pee Wee league vs Pee Wee league
Little League v Little League
Pony League v Pony League
College vs College
Pro vs Pro
At every level baseball is being represented… but differently. You’re not going to find high level Ba Gua by two teenagers outside uncle’s Dongzhou dumpling shop.
[QUOTE=RD’S Alias - 1A;1160321]No, he really didn’t.[/QUOTE]
ok master show me your great kung fu fighting video
[QUOTE=Kung Fu God;1160348]Dizzy watching that guy.
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Nobody gives you their hand to walk round and round with.
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Walking round and round does not mean its Ba Gua. It means someone wants you to think they look like Ba Gua. Ba Gua is all about what happens after contact.
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With the opening side blade kick from a distance, round house and axe kick… better representation of Tae Kown Do.[/QUOTE]
everyone always says that is not bagua when they see a fight with a bagua guy. i have studied bagua in america and in china where i live, and he used ever aspect of baugua,the kicks ,throws and hand techniques. maybe you guys watch too many old kung fu movie and expect the guy to never get touched.
- Walking round and round does not mean its Ba Gua. It means someone wants you to think they look like Ba Gua. Ba Gua is all about what happens after contact.
Yet it is still Bagua as only Bagua students circle each other in such a fashion. :rolleyes:
- Nobody gives you their hand to walk round and round with.
I don’t even do bagua but i dare someone to attack my front hand. you will quickly learn you got set up. :rolleyes:
- With the opening side blade kick from a distance, round house and axe kick… better representation of Tae Kown Do.
its no wonder why you left gung fu. LMAO it doesn’t even want you. LAME As$
Ray Pina wants to be a KUNG FU GOD. His story is a tragic one. His ship has sailed as time quickly passes by him and his pawr wittle shouldah injuwee. sooooo sad for him…NOT! 
Kung Fu doesn’t want him. This forum doesn’t want him. must make you wonder what his BJJ mates think of him and his stinky gi.
All of that doesn’t make the above video substantial.
Signs I look for to determine Ba Gua skill are regular all steps that happen to be kicks. They’re low, looks likes walking, but attacking legs. Not lean back to kick high… like TKD.
I also look for striking incoming attacks and using them as levels to turn the other. Ba Gua does not circle themselves. They turn the other.
ll of that doesn’t make the above video substantial.
Signs I look for to determine Ba Gua skill are regular all steps that happen to be kicks. They’re low, looks likes walking, but attacking legs. Not lean back to kick high… like TKD.
I also look for striking incoming attacks and using them as levels to turn the other. Ba Gua does not circle themselves. They turn the other.
You’re no authority on Bagua and no one really cares about you RAY…
[QUOTE=Snipsky;1160371]Ray Pina wants to be a KUNG FU GOD. His story is a tragic one. His ship has sailed as time quickly passes by him and his pawr wittle shouldah injuwee. sooooo sad for him…NOT!
Kung Fu doesn’t want him. This forum doesn’t want him. must make you wonder what his BJJ mates think of him and his stinky gi. :D[/QUOTE]
If Ray Pina’s story is tragic – a lifetime martial artist who continues to compete and lives in Puerto Rico surfing, winning regional BJJ tournaments – what is yours? With the exception of one or two others here, no one here has fought outside of the confines of TCMA tournaments. Post after post arguing over photos with students, ideas and philosophies but no one even at a standard level of today, never mind dominating. Many chiefs but no indians. All sifu/masters, no able fighters.
And to ban Ray Pina for pointing these truths out… shameful! We should all be embarrassed. martial artists who are so thin skinned they can’t handle diverging opinions? Weak!
How’s the diet going?
If Ray Pina’s story is tragic – a lifetime martial artist who continues to compete and lives in Puerto Rico surfing, winning regional BJJ tournaments – what is yours? With the exception of one or two others here, no one here has fought outside of the confines of TCMA tournaments. Post after post arguing over photos with students, ideas and philosophies but no one even at a standard level of today, never mind dominating. Many chiefs but no indians. All sifu/masters, no able fighters.
And to ban Ray Pina for pointing these truths out… shameful! We should all be embarrassed. martial artists who are so thin skinned they can’t handle diverging opinions? Weak!
Ray Pina lives in a very lonely world. yes, his story is tragic. but only to him. the rest of us giggle about it like giddy little girls. LOL
[QUOTE=wiz cool c;1160307]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=6h-gev8goEI&NR=1
finnally a good bagua fighting video. in my opinion that guy in the white shirt did a dam good job expressing bagua under pressure[/QUOTE]
Really? A good fighting video of Gagua? As compared to what?
[QUOTE=wiz cool c;1160307]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=6h-gev8goEI&NR=1
finnally a good bagua fighting video. in my opinion that guy in the white shirt did a dam good job expressing bagua under pressure[/QUOTE]
It’s not a good idea to “cross your legs” in front of your opponent in combat. If your opponent just rushes in with good timing, you will be down.
The guy in the white has horrible throws. So many times I’m like “ok now he has his back, surely he can secure the throw” yet he did nothing but lose position. These kinds of vids are ok with context but overall I find them boring compared to what I could be watching.
And how many grapplers out there werent watching this vid the whole time thinking “i could have taken him down there, and there, and there, and there…”
Based on what I saw in the vid I really do think I could take eaither of those guys in a street fight. Of course maybe they are far better than the vid suggests. Prolly not tho.
It’s not a good idea to “cross your legs” in front of your opponent in combat. If your opponent just rushes in with good timing, you will be down.
Which is just one reason why i didn’t think this was a good demonstration of Bagua.
The Bagua player here started his mistakes with this. If you watch, you will notice he is spending a great deal of time in the prey position, and giving up the predatory position to his opponent. He’s lucky his opponent does not know how to take the gifts he was given.
Real Bagua does not leave you constantly vulnerable like this.
master master please you video
[QUOTE=wiz cool c;1160615]master master please you video[/QUOTE]
If you had any level of understanding, you would comprehend my words, and not need me to post a video.
put up or shut up