Any of you Kung Fu guys box?

But the power comes up from the feet and does involve turning of the torso to properly “drive” the punch, correct?

In other words, while the chain punch might be alien to the boxer, would he find the power generation to be alien–slightly different, perhaps, but more or less something he’s familiar with, at least conceptually?

In other words, the boxer would recognize this as power generation?

rtbuddah: Stout fellow, well done. I actually learned from all that.

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I liked it too.

I’m not sure about transfering the weight to the front foot on a cross though. I’ll have to check that next time I’m punching a bag. I’ve been concentrating so much on ensuring I pivot properly, I’ve not been thinking about the left side :slight_smile:

Gosh you guys…thanks for all the compliments and backup…WesternBoxer…you are even more of an idiot now, because you don’t know what the hell I know, or what I look like, so therefor you have no right to judge my looks by my mouth(boxing) :wink: ANYWAYS…u are the one with your panties in a bunch…and you wouldn’t know what hit you if i DID kick you in the jaw…and Rubthebuddhas…you are right, I WOULDN’T spill my tea!!!

~wen~

do you guys realize how much it was driving me nuts that i couldn’t just SHOW you the difference – actually demonstrate the technique in front of you? you guys know how the typical boxer throws a cross. however, in wing chun, the body usage is completely different, and i really wanted to show you the differences – i wanted to provoke a few light bulbs.

oh well. thanks for the compliments. happy i could help. :slight_smile:

and merryprankster: i didn’t mean transferring all the weight to that front foot. just most styles that have similar punch forms as the tkd i learned may start 50-50 or 60-40 or whatever, but there is a fair amount of weight being transferred to that front foot to maximize the power of the strike. once that strike has either missed or increased someone’s dental bill, the weight, like the punch, retracts to its original position, hoping to make the aforementioned attacker uglier again.

and again.

and again.

as far as power generation, boxers are pretty darn keen at recognizing such generation, so yeah. time for more anology:

i drive a car to travel. i understand concepts of internal combustion, power transmission, power distribution and traction really well. i also understand the secondary concepts of direct-current electricty to power the extraneous stuff and to keep my battery nice and charged. all this comes into play for better, more solid driving on my part, and if something is not working right, i can stop and examine a specific part – say, my distributor – and realize that, without proper current being routed to necessary bits, my car won’t drive for poop. i take that one piece, fix it, and i’m golden.

i also fly to travel. however, for this, i’m along for the ride. i understand little about jet propulsion and aerodynamics when applied to air travel (i know 'em well when applied to that ground stuff). all the little bits on planes confound the hell out of me.

the point? simple. i can look at either method and say, they both get me somewhere. one i know how and why, the other i don’t. but i can still recognize the effects.

by the same token, a boxer, who may have no clue why i’m stepping with all the weight my back leg and my feet are flat on the ground and i’m punching with my elbow down with a vertical fist, will be able to recognize that my motion, coupled with a punch, will make someone uglier than even a loving mother could endure.

sorry i’m so long winded. but you provoked me and i had to respond properly. :cool:

merryp: one more thing: protect that left side, else you’ll get your back exposed faster than you can say, “please, not in the bum.” :wink:

eh, don’t worry–left side’s protected. I just mean I’ve not been paying attention to exactly what happens when I throw a proper cross. I’ve just been concentrating on what it feels like when I hit the bag :slight_smile:

good. i don’t want to hear any horror stories next time you’re online. :slight_smile:

If you hear any horror stories it will be from jiujitsu. I have yet to be injured boxing.

egads, man. you couldn’t be more right.

Well I practice praying mantis boxing.

"A step, however is not fundamentally necessary. When you DON’T step with a jab, the snap in it DOES come from hip torque. "

I was gonna say that. I tell ya, You miss a couple of days, and you miss out on all the good threads.

Of course power comes from the ground

Almost all power comes from the ground and is transferred throught various body parts.

A great example to visualize or even try is to imagine being suspended in the air, with no contact with the ground, and throwing punches with power. You will thow them, but they will have no power. Imagine hitting a baseball hard in the same position.

This is why in tennis, where power also comes from the ground, that you lose power if you jump before you contact the tennis ball, versus being pulled into the air after contact. Both ways appear to jump, but the first lacks power.

Batting baseball on ice. Throwing punches on ice. Golfing in mud without spikes. All good examples.

Right CD,

But the QUESTION is whether or not, at their core, there is something FUNDAMENTALLY different about the way power is transfered from the feet to the striking surface.

I say not, others say there is. Difference of opinion. No biggie.

Merry:

Uhhh, I just do not understand your statement. State the question completely on it’s own accord for me please. This is a great subject. I want to understand what you mean. Thanks!