I used to box until I decided I wanted to avoid neurological damage. Those d*mn gloves. I’d take barehand fighting any day.
LOL @ WaterDragon
“I’d take barehand fighting any day.” - Kuen
:eek:
I’m a savate player when my gong fu training leaves me spare time and energy…
Tim Cartmell’s thoughts on boxing (taken from his discussion board)
"Western boxing is probably the best choice of all the martial arts when it comes to developing practical hand skills in a relatively short amount of time.
Western boxing doesn’t need to be ‘driven’ by anything else, it works just fine as it is. When the Chinese army was researching and developing their hand to hand combat (which later evolved into the modern San Shou/San Da tournament fighting popular today), they researched all the popular forms of martial arts (including their own). The conclusion was that Western boxing hand techniques (when it came to developing practical striking and defensive abilities in a reasonable amount of time) were superior to all others (including their own). Other (Chinese) hand techniques were included to round out the training, but the foundation of San Shou hand techniques is Western boxing. The striking techniques of the IMA (especially Xing Yi Quan) are, in my opinion, on par with Western boxing, but for shear speed of skill development (and practical ability), you can’t beat boxing (an interesting side note, the descriptions of generating force described in Jack Dempsy’s book, “Championship Fighting,” are virtually identical to those in Xing Yi Quan).
A few months of boxing lessons with a good coach will almost certainly be of great value to your training."
It’s a change at least…
With all the grappling trolls it’s a nice change of pace to get a boxing troll around here, a chick no less. Keep it up honey. A chick with a boxer face, eek! She’ll have a firm arse at least.
To clarify something:
Not all kung fu is concidered chinese “boxing”. It is chinese fighting, but not necessarily boxing in western terms.
Chinese boxing does not follow marques de queensbury rules but has alot in common. Gaurd position(oh yeah, who here remembers how to hold a hand gaurd?) stance form etc.
waterdragonboy,
your a wierd one??!!
you want to check me out?
your the troller it seems like!!
why don’t YOU tell me the right way to throw a jab and the right footwork for it?
‘chick’
‘honey’
‘boxer’s face’
‘firm arse’
seriously, you can tell me. do you still use a club or are you knocking out your mates empty handed these days?
some of the stuff you say is solid, but come off it. this is just sad.
stuart b.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
you dont understand. we think you are really a man and a troll. you have to convince us otherwise. if you don’t feel like you need to convince us then we will catch you on fire and i will have my way with your charred remains.
male or female remains. it doesn’t matter much after the body has been severely scorched.
There you go ,boxerchick, nicely dodged again.
Many of us know how to jab, hook, cross, uppercut, erhand…and a many other hand strikes and applications. It’s better for communication if we understand one anothers interpreatitions of techniques. Since you opened the discussion with claims of knowledge, why dont you begin?
Makes sense, doesn’t it?
Or pehaps we should be more specific..do you prefer a falling step or simultaneous when commiting to your jab? Why?
good grief. what the hell’s with the witch hunt?
maybe boxerchick is a guy. maybe not. who cares?!
i didn’t read anything particularly troll-like in this thread. she said she’d seen boxers play around with kung fu and karate people. perhaps a bit inciteful, but hardly unheard of. (neither’s the opposite. boxers get handled by kung fu guys too.) i’ve seen that happen too. so what?
as for describing the mechanics of an uppercut or hook on the internet, that’s a bit daunting to do accurately. and since when has anyone on here had to pass a screening test anyway? i don’t recall anyone quizzing me on eskrima.
based on ‘her’ descriptions of the footwork used in generating power, i believe boxerchick knows what she’s going on about. but more importantly, what’s with this ridiculous ‘guilty until proven innocent’ thing?
i’ve seen dozens of people post dumber things than this thread, and not one of them has taken this kinda flak.
stuart b.
Uh oh. 
This might get interesting.
To answer your question, my father was a golden gloves champ in his youth, but that was LONG ago.
Still he was the one guy who gave me the most problems sparring He taught me what he knew, but I’m prodominently a grappler.
Ryu
Just trying to get her/his interpretation.
Hey Stuart
I’m not calling BoxerChick a troll. Yet. If she is a solid boxer, I think she would make a great additon to the boards. She’ll have a lot of knowledge to give out. However, past experience has shown that a lot of people ain’t all that they claim to be. If she is trolling, it’s better to know now so that she can be ignored. I don’t think asking for the basic mechanics of the hook and the uppercut are too much to ask. Shouldn’t take more than a paragraph or two to write up. I would think a boxer would be more than happy to share some of the basics of their art.
FYI, (to all) I’m working on the basics of the jab as I was taught them and will post as soon as I am finished. I’m not a boxer though so don’t expect anything too in depth or enlightening.
interpretation of what? boxing? nobody’s ever asked you the mechanics of a sidekick simply to lend credibility to your posts.
if that’s a new requirement, then fire away. tell us how those techniques are technically performed. and if it’ll make you feel better, quiz me too.
this is bollocks.
stuart b.
water dragon,
i understand that. but what prompted the question in the first place? the observation that sometimes boxers beat kung fu practitioners?
i don’t find the idea of a boxer explaining technique odd. i find the idea that they should have to to be taken seriously odd. we don’t assume that every new member here is a troll. or do we?
we don’t do this routinely. so why now? like i said, nobody’s ever quizzed me. or you.
stuart b.
Hey Stuart
What’s the number 6 strike in The Lameco Escrima system, from cerado side. 
**** you archangel. 
i don’t know. i’ve done the doce pares angles (both patalinghug and canete sets), the villabrille set, and one of guro inosanto’s sets. but i could probably only remember the doce pares one if pressed. and the abbreviated cinco teros.
but i’ll take a stab. it’s a stab. forehand thrust to the stomach?
survey says…
no, wait. that wouldn’t be right. forehand thrust would probably be an odd-numbered strike. in short, i have no earthly idea.
stuart b.
i’m no boxer either, but i could describe the mechanics of the cross and uppercut pretty well.