[QUOTE=Hendrik;1146148]My taichi push hand sifu Pan yi rou is the champion of Taiwan push hand competition. My siheng who study wing with me and explain hk to me is a famous hk grandmaster. my martial brother Gm Robert Chu of WCK is also a hk expert.[/QUOTE]
Ok. That’s what I was looking for. Thanks for sharing the little you have it’s a great eye-opener because I really don’t believe in all these superficial titles to be honest.
Famous Hung Kuen Grandmaster is… ? I’m sure he wont mind you telling, seeing he is your sihing in Wing Chun too
Because a Grandmaster who says HK has no centre line ideas is no Grandmaster imhhho.
[QUOTE=LoneTiger108;1146150]Ok. That’s what I was looking for. Thanks for sharing the little you have it’s a great eye-opener because I really don’t believe in all these superficial titles to be honest.
Famous Hung Kuen Grandmaster is… ? I’m sure he wont mind you telling, seeing he is your sihing in Wing Chun too
Because a Grandmaster who says HK has no centre line ideas is no Grandmaster imhhho.[/QUOTE]
Think anything you like. I am ok with your opinion.
I believe that Lone Tiger 108 asked you a basic question[/QUOTE]
Dude, I have asked many during my time here, and have rarely got a straight answer :rolleyes: but I don’t mind.
I really do like Hendriks approach (sometimes!) it’s just a shame he says things sometimes that are totally ridiculous fme and I see far too many Chinese/Oriental ‘grand masters’ claiming this and that, but still they have trouble answering some of my basic questions, let alone impressing me with their demonstrations or whatever!
We all need to ‘see’ and ‘feel’. I know this. But we have never even ‘seen’ anything form Hendrik to highlight his physical capabilities. That would be a good start, but he isn’t the ONLY one here that seems to be all talk either
Having just come back from china, hongkong for Sigung Ip Chun’s 88th Birthday
I would say this, I do believe Yuen Kay San and Ip man both research this lok sao platform created it and hence it is unique to their descendants.
But in china, many lineages, especially in guangzhou e.g yiu choi lineages use this platform now interchangebly of Poon/Lok.
No points for wondering why they would want to. It is known the structure of tan, bong, fok is a position of being able to be relaxed yet absorb force. It is not muscular tension that does it, its body mechanics.
E.g Try having a tan sao with elbows out, then tan sao elbows in. The earlier allows the power to go into the structure so you can use body force, the latter uses muscles and arm power to power a resistance.
Bong sao is able to do so, fok sao is able to do so with certain alignments as well.
The rooting force like Master Tsui Shong Tin, can be done various ways, without needing to rest on yongquan. Its not about pivoting front toe or back heel that allows rooting.
Just sharing the way I teach and was taught from the Ip Man lineage.
I can’t speak for whether IM or YKS invented ChiSau or not, but in our Kulo 22 line we do not have ChiSau as such; we are big on Poon Sau (sometimes my teacher calls it Huen Sau) and a number of partner drills. We practice ChiSau a bit so that in my teacher’s words, “so that we can play with other Wing Chun guys.”
I can’t speak for whether IM or YKS invented ChiSau or not, but in our Kulo 22 line we do not have ChiSau as such; we are big on Poon Sau (sometimes my teacher calls it Huen Sau) and a number of partner drills. We practice ChiSau a bit so that in my teacher’s words, “so that we can play with other Wing Chun guys.”
Cheers,
John[/QUOTE]
in Yik Kam lineage from the Cho family, the Poon Sau or Chi Sau has four type which is Huen, Kaam, Tiu, Taap. four type of circle.
In the Ip ching lineage,
we use 4 cycles, as mentioned in the previous post and video,
inside rotation, outward rotation, inner rotation, outer rotation
And of course we use a lok platform as well.
@imperial taiji, seen alot of your videos and other kulo videos, I know how you guys roll. Nice…did some similar poon sao or aka chi sao loong when I did ban chung years back.
I think its a point to note, that both ip man sons took different things from the father. Only students who have followed both sons will know the difference.
