In Wing Chun what is the Yin Yang principle?
How is observed,practiced or followed?
Sayings of the Kuit Kuen:
"- Know the difference between Yin and Yang, real and feigned. Take advantage of any available opportunity. "
"- The Yin Yang principle should be thoroughly understood. "
Yin is for defense and Yang is for offense.
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1150247]Yin is for defense and Yang is for offense.[/QUOTE]
Please elaborate…Please share some techniques, utilization and definition of how one uses Yin to defend and how one uses Yang to attack?
Yang is “head on collision” that your hard fist meet your opponent’s poor face. No example needs there.
Ying is “rear end collision” that you borrow your opponent’s force and lead him into the emptiness. A simple example, your opponent shoots at your leg, you put your hands behind his neck, pull and press his head down to the ground and let him to kiss dirt.
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1150266]- Yang is “head on collision” that your hard fist meet your opponent’s poor face. No example needs there.
wow the yin example..is also we do as well!
[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1150240]In Wing Chun what is the Yin Yang principle?
How is observed,practiced or followed?
Sayings of the Kuit Kuen:
"- Know the difference between Yin and Yang, real and feigned. Take advantage of any available opportunity. "
"- The Yin Yang principle should be thoroughly understood. "[/QUOTE]
the yin/yang principle is not observed. You learn it right in the beginning in the SLT and continues right up Chi Sao where it is mastered and then transfored in to fighting. Its just a way of useing your body in a relaxed,flexable,flowing way. thsts the way i use it anyway.
Yin?Yang cant be learnt by talking about it or reading some kuen kit.
Ying and Yang can be real simple on first level, and can be a real eye opener at high level. A whole book can be written on application using it, the principle is everywhere.
At fist level, yang meets yang on same vector, stronger yang dominate.
Yang meets Yin backed by Yang, different story.
[QUOTE=Robinhood;1150341]Ying and Yang can be real simple on first level, and can be a real eye opener at high level. A whole book can be written on application using it, the principle is everywhere.
At fist level, yang meets yang on same vector, stronger yang dominate.
Yang meets Yin backed by Yang, different story.[/QUOTE]
sure its harder to train your body to use yin strenght instead of brute strenght.
How to train the body with ying strength ?
[QUOTE=Hendrik;1150353]How to train the body with ying strength ?[/QUOTE]
easy find a sifu who knows and bai si to him. Thats what i did. Not trying to be deceiving but some things should not be shared in a public forum.
[QUOTE=stonecrusher69;1150355]easy find a sifu who knows and bai si to him. Thats what i did. Not trying to be deceiving but some things should not be shared in a public forum.[/QUOTE]
why not? why shouldnt some things be shared in a public forum?
The following kind of online discussion always bother me big time.
A: You guys don’t know sh!t. I’m the only person who know how to do it.
B: Would you mind to share your training method here?
C: I would love to know it too.
A: Somethings should not be shared in a public forum. If we ever meet face to face, I can help you to open your eyes.
There are only 2 things that you shouldn’t share in public forum.
You forgot the secret Dim Mak move how to strike your opponent from fifty feet away with out even touching him phyiscally but using your chi to kill him over dead…because you can displace the energy in the air an send it 100 miles away to its target!
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1150381]The following kind of online discussion always bother me big time.
A: You guys don’t know sh!t. I’m the only person who know how to do it.
B: Would you mind to share your training method here?
C: I would love to know it too.
A: Somethings should not be shared in a public forum. If we ever meet face to face, I can help you to open your eyes.
There are only 2 things that you shouldn’t share in public forum.
Do you guys seriously believe in ying strength …ect as discuss in this thread?
[QUOTE=Hendrik;1150353]How to train the body with ying strength ?[/QUOTE]
The Ying strength is your opponent’s strength that you borrow. You can only train how to borrow. You can’t train how to develop your opponent’s strength. It’s not your strength anyway.
For me, yin and yang are a tool for analysis. If I feel too much yang, I ask where can I be more yin and vice versa. It is rare that when I practice I do not do some type of analysis on what I’m working on. Where am I heavy? Where am I light? Where am I tense? Where am I relaxed? Where am I open? Where am I closed? etc. To utilize this tool for analysis opens opportunities for me to evaluate my progress and my understanding of my training.
Marty
Block/Parry soft. Strike hard. It’s not that easy either. You have to be able to use both hemispheres of your brain independently. Like a piano player playing two different rhythms simultaneously. 
[QUOTE=Hendrik;1150389]Do you guys seriously believe in ying strength …ect as discuss in this thread?[/QUOTE]
Do you mean Yin? like soft strenght…I think it is possible to train Yin Strength…but thats just me…
But please share with me if you think its possible…i see Yin as the opposite of Yang…So if Yang is hard training Yin is soft training…
Yin is internal and Yang is External right…
If you train only Yang you will be very strong but not relaxed or agile enough to apply that strength…
An example would be
Yang
-power lifting, weight training for the upper body and lower body, squats, benchpress
-calesthiestics, running, jump rope, sparring
-wooden man, kicking a wooden post,hitting a makira board, striking a punching bag
If you do this but dont stretch or nothing you wont be any good…
Yin
-strecthing, Chi Kung, Breathing exercises, Meditation
-form practicing, Punching in the air, walking, practice stepping lightly
-kicking in the air, chi sau, shadow boxing
With out the Yin you wont be able to utilize your yang!
Jin vector force
I found this:
http://rumsoakedfist.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7380&start=15&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
Jox,