Not Xingyi
Actually that’s a Tibetan White Crane vs Wu style Tai Chi clip. The older guy (the stocky one with the moustache) is Wu Gong Yee, the grandmaster at the time of Wu style Tai Chi. The other guy is Chan Hak Fu of Tibetan White Crane. This match took place in the early 50s.
my bad. My friend sent it to me saying it was an XY clip.
What!..No wing girls?..
oh, that one…did RD send it to you? 
What? Why would you assume “I” sent it to him??
Why, as an example of good kung fu, of course:D
They’re not doing kungfu, they’re doing BJJ. I saw a butt scoot.
maybe, but I think it was more of a Japanese style of jujitsu but scoot.
sure didn’t look much like xingyi or tai chi or TWC.
this was on that site chris posted:
http://www.blacktaoist.com/Novell%20quicktime%20movies.html/BaGua%20throwing.html
it looks like something I’ve seen in SC - kao.
as for the clips you posted, nice agressiveness. The only thing I didn’t like was how low their hands were.
Originally posted by SevenStar
it looks like something I’ve seen in SC - kao.
And like gedan ate in tomiki aikido and kenjit siko in silat.
The only thing I didn’t like was how low their hands were.
The lead hand is usually around face height in xingyi/bagua. But it’s often a different approach than a standard boxing guard. The lead hand is often quite extended, as you can see in the clip, and this can be used for range and sensitivity, allowing an attack to pass the extended hand and so using the elbow and forearm to defend. The rear hand is often much lower, and can help defend shoots and kicks, as well as setting it up so that raising it can be used to open someone up or take a position of control (ie. rather than having it raised already).
kinda like a “cowbell” no?
Originally posted by Christopher M
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doesn’t kinjit have more of a downwards energy to it, like you are sending them down and backward over your leg?
Talk about this on on the ultimate grappling thread.
Yeah… but there’s a kenjit variation that is more extension than compression, so looks more like these… I forget what it’s called though. 
What do you mean, yenhoi?
Yep! A right cross IS a powerful technique
That clip is getting beaten to death all over the place.
THey should’ve never made that.
It’s a terrible example of kungfu.
One guy was telling me that they were both so restricted by their local laws and the rules of engagement that neither of them could really do anything but the hopping about and flailing that you see in that clip.
It really is a poor showing by both isn’t it? It’s too bad. It should’nt have been posted as an example of a kungfu fight. It should’ve been posted as an example of a bad kungfu fight restricted by local laws and rules. lol.
cheers
thanks for the clip, i’ve been looking all over the place for it.
What all was restricted?
Originally posted by Merryprankster
Yep! A right cross IS a powerful technique
There was actually an article in I think JAMA that put the five xingyi strikes side by side with the comparable boxing strikes. I dunno if it’s online anywhere…