WTF Moderators???

Whoever posted on police being in-accurate shooting a running target…that is pretty much the dumbest thing to say I’ve read in this thread. What the fu(k does shooting someone running away have to do with self-defense. Yeah you can learn a gun…and then no matter how big a panzy you are you can just shoot your gun off along with your mouth because you have an upper hand. You guys need to get real…right now you can barely make a rational thought what about in a fighting situation? You are going to pull the trigger and then it’s final. Victim is probably dead and you can’t do anything about it.

With a gun you will have confidence you don’t deserve and that means you will be just another punk with a gun running his mouth and then shooting whoever talks back. I’m sure most of you aren’t like that but I’m sure in a situation where you are extremely disturbed and distressed it would happen so good job working on kung fu all your life to then rely on a gun. If the other person has a gun then avoid them if you can or just shut your mouth and do what they say. These arts are for defense not for the escalation of violence. Gun training and having a gun are different but shooting someone if they don’t have a gun pointed at you is the ultimate cowardly act.

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ElPietro

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=“-1”>quote:</font><HR> In fact, most police officers who shoot regularly are unable to reliably hit a human silloette moving at running speed only 15 feet away [/quote]

Where does that say the target is moving away?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=“-1”>quote:</font><HR> You are going to pull the trigger and then it’s final. Victim is probably dead and you can’t do anything about it. [/quote]

And that statement is in direct opposition to all of the data that is out there. The vast, vast majority of people who are shot do not die. According to the Uniform Crime Statistics put out by the FBI, only 1 in 10 people shot actually die.

Moreover, my post about inacuracy only points out that pulling the trigger is by no means a sure bet that the bullet will hit it’s target.

JWT

If you pr!ck us, do we not bleed? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that the villany you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction. MOV

I’ve also heard/read (on some tactical firearm sites), when using a pistol to defend your life, much like all martial arts, you still shouldn’t rely on the “one-shot kill”, unless you’re a pheonominal shooter, and can confidently go for a moving head shot, or the knee caps of an assailant covering ground to take you out. Most people don’t die (or stop, or fall) when they’re only hit once while moving towards you.

Now if I could just toughen my body to absorb some bullets, I could cover enough ground to submit any armed assailant … :slight_smile:

BTW, snipers would make good Ninja

Jaguar Wong

I remember an old phrase for use in self defense-
“Charge a Gun, Run from a blade”

a gun wound is clean and it is likely you will survive a gunshot wound.

Blade wounds are messy and are more likely to leave you dead.

Just a thought.

peace

Kung Lek

Martial Arts Links

That is statistically accurate. You have a higher likelyhood of surviving a gun attack than a knife attack, statistically speaking. That is a bit misleading of a statistic, however. Most of the time someone is shot, it’s loud, gets allot of attention, and the victim recieves subsequent medical attention rather quickly. Nobody hears a knife and people often bleed to death before they realize how seriously they are hurt.

JWT

If you pr!ck us, do we not bleed? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that the villany you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction. MOV

Use of Photographs Without Permission

Water Dragon: why are copyrighted photos from one of my articles on your post?

Dennis Rovere
rovere@rovere.com

so it was you.

we can have those shots removed if you want Rovere.

Good work by the way, keep it coming :slight_smile:
peace

Kung Lek

Martial Arts Links

Photos

Kung Lek: Thanks for the compliments. Yes I would like to have the photos removed. Not to be an a$$ about it but if people ask AND give credit as to who is in the photos I normally don’t mind. e.g., emptyflower (a great site) asked to link with my article and place one of our book covers on their page – No problem.

Water Dragon. I know your intentions were good and I understand the point of the photos but next time drop me a note. (BTW No offense taken.)

Done Rovere. They are his pics WD.

Look forward to your further adventures in Kung Fu land :smiley:

peace

Kung Lek

Martial Arts Links

Sorry Rovere, no offense intended. I was just trying to show how firearms are applicable to martial arts.

FYI, you should probably throw a copyright in the HTML so people can’t link your pics.

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