Why you don't need forms...

[QUOTE=Yao Sing;860510]

So all in all, most of the peeps that post here use pretty much all the usual training tools (plus forms), have used some of what they’ve learned in real fights, know what real fighting is like, yet we still get thread after thread full of pages about all the clueless Kung Fu guys that do ONLY forms and have no idea what a real fight is like.

Go figure. :D[/QUOTE]

That’s an excellent point. And my guess is that what the critics are responding to is what they’ve seen in the community at large (ie through tournaments and other public events) and also how things are portrayed in the martial media (ie Kung Fu Magazine and Inside Kung Fu) Here’s a very representative article of the kind of things people rail against:

http://www.insidekung-fu.com/content/view/50/36/

BTW, did anyone see the ridiculous layout on “Mel Gar” in this month’s inside kung fu, with the dude with the fake leopard fur trimmed kung fu outfit?

[QUOTE=Eric Olson;860560]Here’s a very representative article of the kind of things people rail against:

http://www.insidekung-fu.com/content/view/50/36/

BTW, did anyone see the ridiculous layout on “Mel Gar” in this month’s inside kung fu, with the dude with the fake leopard fur trimmed kung fu outfit?[/QUOTE]

Ha! That sounds like the Letters To The Editor in Penthouse and Playboy.

"I strolled through the door and was immediately surrounded by 10 [Penthouse] hot naked women [/Penthouse] [Inside Kung Fu] large dirty bikers [/Inside Kung Fu].

Before I could say a word one of the [Penthouse] women [/Penthouse] [Inside Kung Fu] bikers [/Inside Kung Fu] grabbed me and [Penthouse] tore my clothes off [/Penthouse] [Inside Kung Fu] sucker punched me in the head [/Inside Kung Fu].

:D:D:D

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;860472]

Much like the thundering C0ck that strides the mountain top and spews forth its chi onto the glistening valley below.

:D[/QUOTE]

This is why Sanjuro is my KFM Board Hero. Tidbits of wisdom like this could be my new Sig.

[QUOTE=MightyB;860962]This is why Sanjuro is my KFM Board Hero. Tidbits of wisdom like this could be my new Sig.[/QUOTE]

My fortune cookie business is taking off !
:smiley:

Or you could write children’s books.

[QUOTE=MightyB;860972]Or you could write children’s books.[/QUOTE]

Dude…:eek:

On a side note:

[QUOTE=MightyB;860972]Or you could write children’s books.[/QUOTE]

I think veiled sexual references in children’s books will only get him busted. :stuck_out_tongue:

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;860979]I think veiled sexual references in children’s books will only get him busted. :p[/QUOTE]

Speaking of busts…

wow! talk about swollen! :smiley:

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;860997]wow! talk about swollen! :D[/QUOTE]

Chi like that, you can’t buy !

Greetings..

You don’t need forms for training for the same reason you don’t need protective gear.. it’s “not real”.. if you aren’t beatin’ the bloody snot out of your training partners or snappin’ a few bones, how “real” is it?

Be well..

[QUOTE=Yao Sing;860510]

Pretty much all here have agreed that you don’t need forms to fight but somehow we still get pages of comments bashing the guys that think you do even though we haven’ty seen anyone like that here anywhere.

So all in all, most of the peeps that post here use pretty much all the usual training tools (plus forms), have used some of what they’ve learned in real fights, know what real fighting is like, yet we still get thread after thread full of pages about all the clueless Kung Fu guys that do ONLY forms and have no idea what a real fight is like.

Go figure. :D[/QUOTE]

Really it’s because there are a lot of people here that want to claim that they’re teaching kung fu without having to go through that arduous task of learning kung fu first.

I mean seriously- how can you claim that you’re teaching something like Wing Chun without Chum Kiu, Bil Jee, Sil Lum Tao, Mook Jong, and the two weapons forms? Duh- uh - I learned how to do chi sou reasonably well and duh I uh know that the idea is to dominate the center line- so I uh teach uh wing tsun duh doh duh- wait- nobody uses chi sou in the ufc so I uh- I’m changing the curriculem again duhhhhhhh…

That’s just one example- could be said for CLF, Shaolin, whatever the flavor of the month these guys claim to teach the theories from… Whateva’

Forms are the finger pointing at the moon, grasshopper.

MK if you are going to make a stupid statement at least keep it with the same movie KC:eek:

[QUOTE=kwaichang;861122]MK if you are going to make a stupid statement at least keep it with the same movie KC:eek:[/QUOTE]

I don’t need no stinking movies…

[QUOTE=MasterKiller;861031]Forms are the finger pointing at the moon, grasshopper.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=kwaichang;861122]MK if you are going to make a stupid statement at least keep it with the same movie KC:eek:[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MasterKiller;861186]

I don’t need no stinking movies…[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but where did Buddha mention a grasshopper?:slight_smile:

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;860999]Chi like that, you can’t buy ![/QUOTE]

At first I thought those pics were just from the internet…but now I think that he actually KNOWS all of those women!

He’s just a poor restless soul…wandering from supermodel to supermodel…

[QUOTE=IronWeasel;861234]At first I thought those pics were just from the internet…but now I think that he actually KNOWS all of those women!

He’s just a poor restless soul…wandering from supermodel to supermodel…[/QUOTE]

Yes, this is true, such is my burden, my purgatory…:frowning:

And as such, I allow you to partake of my own personal hell.

that chick has a weird waistline! looks almost photoshopped.

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;861250]that chick has a weird waistline! looks almost photoshopped.[/QUOTE]

I’ll let you know :wink: