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“One is free to choose to ignore the facts”

Who’s ignoring the facts?
You seem to add and subtract “facts” to make your point.
Some of your facts turn out not to be too factual at all. ----Ed

You sure remind me about grade school teacher who insist on the student has to write in certain way. sentence structure is more important then the context and the content. hahahaha. :smiley:

“See, not everyone has to learn grappling to beat grappling.”

Yeah! That chi blast method of WXZ is completely valid!
When they touch your wrist you just fling them in the air.
Is that a fact?

You know, WXZ probably did some pretty good techniques to beat those guys. e.g. A quick fan kum na (grab counter) or something.

But thanks to “Chinese whispers” no one will know what actually happened and some won’t even believe it happened at all.

----- E

speaking about precision on presenting a subject. hahaha

1, Chi blast method? Fan Kum Na? hahahaha Keep guessing since you have no idea totally about WXZ and Yee Chuan.

2, those writing about WXZ bounce others at contact has been there since decades ago. if those Judoka such as Sawai and others chinese martial artists WXZ beat have no problem with it. hahahaha. why do you complain? Do you fight WXZ? :smiley:

you just dont like the fact that old chinese WXZ can beat the Judoka with simple bounce. hahahhaha. :smiley:

PS:
Dont shoot the messenger, that is me :D,
go to BeiJing and verify with those Yee Chuan GM if you are interested. I brought up Yee Chuan here as and IE for the characteristics. hahaha

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Victor,

Man…Hendrik…you really need to grow up. You are having a seriously hard time accepting the fact that there are other martial arts out there that can beat your wing chun/kyokushin, etc… -----V

I always want to be an archeologist (sp) who dig out the past when I grow up. hehehehe.

I have never said wing chun/ kyokushin/Yee Chuan ( yes I learn Yee Chuan too) cannot be beaten.

Did the other day you agree with me certain Zone in some of today’s WCK sucks?:smiley: I guess you must be forgoten. hahahaha

You are CONSTANTLY engaging in a game of denial about non-Chinese arts that really can do something well… -----V

Kyokushin, Aikido of Osense , and Mua Thai which I praise alots in this forum are non- Chinese arts right?

You must have read my post with someone’s glasses or wrong lenses. :cool:

Get over it. Stop kidding yourself. Stop trying to kid everybody else. And learn how to…

Mongolian Wrestling. Take it up! Have faith in yourself! You can do it! ----- V

hahaha,
man, I love to dig out what the old WXZ or the Old LJ or the Osense or the Old Oyama can do.

See, Rene has shown me some good grappling technics. But, dig out what the old chinese can do has no contradiction with
learning new stuffs and embrace other new art .

You sound like you have jump boat even before you find out what is the boat is about. hahahaha

I am still digging trying to find out how much the old chinese can do which lots in the same style cannot do today. That is fun isnt it to find out how much the art has lost. Nah, I am not jumping boat yet. Since the topic of this discussion is WHY WING CHUN. hehehehe

remember I want to be an archeologist (sp) to dig out the old stuffs? hahahaa. I still can love high tech garget like a gps and pda. :wink:

Until one face the past and accept what was going on, until one’s past is a friend to support and not a ghost to haunt. There is no future.

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Originally posted by anerlich
[B]

Yes, one is apparently free to ignore the “facts”, or as demonstrated admirably by yourself, to use “facts” selectively, or to treat hagiographic exaggeration as “facts”. [/B]

someone wants to continous on
counting the (obvious) facture similarities of these two Chinese Martail arts system:

the principle of centerline theory,
White Crane’s of FUjian’s influence on Yee Chuan and WCK, energy issuing such as the nail and hammer? (what is the similarity and different with the nail and hammer analogy between WCK and Yee Chuan’s nail and hammer on pg 49(i think ) of Yau’s book)… ,
Yee of WXZ and Nim Lik /lap nim of YM (TST)…

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Hendrik:

Yadda…Yadda…Yadda

Man - you just never admit it when you’re off the target.

You’re too shady for me, bro…

Drowning the issues with a zillion sentences that always lead people in circles is my definition of…B-O-R-I-N-G !!!

And by the way - remember when Mas O’Yama used to spread stories about he fought and killed bulls with karate chops? How he severed their horns with one blow?

It never happened. He managed to strike a bull once (who wasn’t charging) with a chop near the horn…the bull shook it’s head and walked away.

That was it. And legends are born!?

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by anerlich
[B]

From what I’ve seen, by far the best activity to meet women in the modern age is yoga.

Yep, you got it. Been doing yoga for about 20 years now. Only injury was to my neck while twisting it trying to look at the “scenery” while in the downward dog position.
Davec

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Originally posted by saifa5k
[B][QUOTE]Originally posted by anerlich
[B]

From what I’ve seen, by far the best activity to meet women in the modern age is yoga.

Yep, you got it. Been doing yoga for about 20 years now. Only injury was to my neck while twisting it trying to look at the “scenery” while in the downward dog position.
Davec [/B]

LOL I got a flyer for a yoga class just the other day. I hear all the women are drop dead gorgeous. I really need to get back in shape this time and start taking yoga to increase my flexibility, and “look at the scenery” as it was put earlier.

ha ha ha

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More about Hendrik’s yadda, yadda…this time a quote from Andrew Nerlich:

“WTF does Ali v Inoki have to do with this? Just another Hendrik red herring to avoid dealing with the usual huge holes in his previous arguments?”

Come back to reality Hendrik…

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Originally posted by Phenix
[B]
You sure remind me about grade school teacher who insist on the student has to write in certain way. sentence structure is more important then the context and the content. hahahaha. :smiley:

1, Chi blast method? Fan Kum Na? hahahaha Keep guessing since you have no idea totally about WXZ and Yee Chuan.

2, those writing about WXZ bounce others at contact has been there since decades ago. if those Judoka such as Sawai and others chinese martial artists WXZ beat have no problem with it. hahahaha. why do you complain? Do you fight WXZ? :smiley:

you just dont like the fact that old chinese WXZ can beat the Judoka with simple bounce. hahahhaha. :smiley:

PS:
Dont shoot the messenger, that is me :D,
go to BeiJing and verify with those Yee Chuan GM if you are interested. I brought up Yee Chuan here as and IE for the characteristics. hahaha [/B]

If I were shooting the messenger I’d criticize your writing style.
I couldn’t care less who WXZ beat 60 years ago.

All I am saying is those stories about bouncing a person are exaggerated. They are exaggerated so much due to hero worship that the gullible actually believe that they can do superhuman things.

Mas Oyama has the same stories. Gracies have the same stories. WXZ has the same stories.

You can’t separate the wheat from the chaff. As evidenced by your insistence that WXZ opponents were sent flying via a touch.

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You sure remind me about grade school teacher who insist on the student has to write in certain way. sentence structure is more important then the context and the content.

I guess in the age of political correctness no one corrects students any more, in case it stunts their personalities, makes them dependent on Ritalin and Prozac, etc. etc.

I hadn’t expected that things had gone so far that to write unintelligibly and without making any sense was now acceptable and to be encouraged, but, what can I say, I live and learn. You are a unique and beautiful snowflake, and removing the “snow” from that makes just as much sense.

Keep guessing since you have no idea totally about WXZ and Yee Chuan.

I don’t know WXZ from Adam, but I did spend quite a few years studying taiji and xingyi. I may know more than you!