just get the porn man, it’ll make you feel better, it’ll make everything A-OK
No problem 
gong fu and bjj should be 2 categories. do a fight to the death match and bjj will lose.
bjj will have or not have their kimono on. the gong fu guy will be standing there with 2 knives.
LOL @ the BJJ guy with his gi. I’ve trained BJJ on and off for eight years and only twice have i ever trained with a gi on. BJJ is what you make of it. Too me and maybe i’m wrong your still baseing theories from Royce Gracie fighting 7 yrs ago in a gi and now you think all BJJ guys have to wear them. But who knows sometimes i just look into things to deep.
Hey i got some softcore stuff going on right now, today i feel better already.
But i cant get the hardcore stuff, its like taboo you know.
you really like 270 xebby
how tall are you,how you train:confused:
My height is 1,88 - 1,89 meters
Thats 6,2 foot acording to the convertors on the www
My training is very slacking right now.
I’m at my parents house and its been a month since i dont train.
Idealy its ment to be:
- 1 hour cardio 5 times a week (my doctor told me to, its to lose weight)
- 1 hour kung fu 3 times a week
- 20min to 40min qigong every day
My new plan for like 3 months from when i return home would be:
same as before but:
- make qigong twice a day instead of one
- more intense cardio
- add tai chi 2 times a week or more kung fu
- add regular heavybag training
Wait, your son called you bro? Is this incestuous or is he your boy as in “Mate/friend”
I completly disagree with you…
I am new to this board. And with $hit like this I had to respond. I sugest you quit whatever CMA you do and do Yoga for health and Bjj for fighting if thats the way you think. The way you are now, training CMA but saying it doesnt work is bad for the art, bad for the other pratcioners, bad for the sifus that work hard.
“Hey i heard you do martial arts, thats really cool”
“Yeah, i do kung fu that doesnt work, it sucks for fighting and gets defeated all times”
You’d look stupid doing that, man.
My kung fu works for me, if yours dont, quit doing it.
I lived in Brazil for 20 something years and never heard about it. Even if it’s true (what I doubt) (would you name the place and the time that real Kung Fu?), 90% of KF in Brazil is fake. All I can say is I never lost, and my teacher never lost to. No shame in losing, but we never did. BJJ, Muai Thay, Kick boxing, Full contact, Karate, Judo, Kung Fu, we fought them all, and we knocked them ALL.
2 - I am VERY sorry to hear that you have to go through history books to find someone that won a fight with your style. Man…what can I say… do yourself some good and go learn Xing Yiquan.
Unhappylesslly, kung-fu is a lie. Because kung-fu does not exist,
kung-fu is a nickname invented by westrens to denominate to hability for chinese people in fighting with or without weapons which only means skill attained in anything through hard work. Chinese boxing is the closest term we have to describe what we do. The goal of Chinese boxing in general and Hsing I in particular is to attack an opponent, or defend against one, in as expedient a manner possible to take him out. Eye gouging, windpipe destruction and breaking of joints and bones are the most common techniques. Obviously, these have no place in a sporting event.
In the beginning of the MMA scene, there were a few representatives from Chinese styles who performed poorly. But you have to realize, they used completely inappropriate techniques such as opening with kicking. How stupid is this with a grappler!
A real streetfight has guns, knives, sticks, tables, chairs, parked cars, brick walls etc… involved. it is nothing like 2 guys with tights running around in a little caged boxing ring. oh not to mention multiple attackers, methinks Chinese boxing addresses this. hmmm…
It seems to me as if you owe it to yourself to do a little more research into Traditional Chinese boxing before dismissing it. If Hsing I didnt work, the Peoples Republic of China would not currently employ it as their main CQB system, now would they!
Why is it that some practitioners of arts specializing in grappling arts always make the erroneous assumption that the rest of us will be completely unprepared, taken to the ground, and either pummelled into submission or have something broken? We are ready for them, we have surprises waiting for them so that the first strike takes them completely out of the offensive mindset.
Keep in mind a UFC bout not too long ago when a ground-n-pounder by the name of Mark Coleman got his ass handed to him by a much smaller man named Maurice Smith. Smith was primarily a striker but survived on the ground long enough to get back on his feet and open a jumbo-sized can of whoopass on Coleman.
The tradition of Kung Fu some people here refer to as only a tradition, is the ability to kill a man with or without weapons. Chinese boxing is not a dance(at least not the traditional variety). These arts were used for at least 300 years in life and death battlefield situations to survive. When compared to the more recently developed sports(notice the term sports) such as mixed martial arts , one only has to research a little history to see that styles such as Hsing I has proven itself as combat effective over a far longer time span than the previously mentioned style.
Dude,
Who are you and why are quoting me, Tadzio and Bruno from emptyflowers?
And by the way…
Youre scaring the **** outa me.
But that doesnt mean im sudenly not a bad ass anymore.
Well I don’t know about you guys
but I really loved Gong Fu back in the 70’s. Chuck Berris was the best tv sifu around. 
Where is the codified data which states that hsing is being used as Chinas main CQB system.
Which branch, what unit, where is the info?
I do know from Roveres sight that a cut-down and streamlined hsing system was taught to the Chinese soliders in the 1920’s but what are you in reference to?
Order
Maybe you should go back and re-read this thread. Maybe the second time around you can figure out what I’m really saying. It sure went over your head the first time 
"A real streetfight has guns, knives, sticks, tables, chairs, parked cars, brick walls etc… involved. it is nothing like 2 guys with tights running around in a little caged boxing ring. oh not to mention multiple attackers, methinks Chinese boxing addresses this. hmmm… "
:rolleyes:
Why Kung Fu Sucks
My boy is gonna start working out with me.
He’s a BJJ Blue Belt and just got back doing two weeks with Royler out in Brazil.
First, I explained what we do a little.
Then I explained that we are a little rougher than most Gung Fu schools and he’s gonna get hurt on occassion .
He’s reply ?
It’s cool bro,I broke my shoulder after
my first BJJ lesson ,I came back in about a month.
He’s gonna make a helluva Shuai Chiao .
He had the one thing that can 't be taught.
Heart
I’ll let you figure out what thread title means.
You can also figure out if this thread applies to you or not.
Water Dragon ,
I’m just sharing with you my input towards your topic.
I have deep respect for BJJ ,but did it ever occur to you that jujutsu actually came out of an old chinese technique called China Na.
And plus I agree with you that there are some kung fu schools out there that are ,not as tough as BJJ.
But not all kung fu schools are like that,in the world of the CMA .
You must do those exercises to develop the power in your kung fu techniques.
And shuai Chiao is the chinese art of throwing.
And I’m not trying to start a new flame,
all I’m saying is before you put down CMA ,think about where your art had evolved.
Shuai Chiao is part of the CMA.
Or did mean Judo the japanese art of throwing.
Heart is good to have to,but more importantly the philosophy of the art that you practice is also important too.
As well as the discipline itself is what makes you a humble person.
In the world of the martial arts today,theres always going to get people who are better than you.
So just be humble,if you are ego,you 're
going to fall flat on your face.
There sifus out there who make CMA look bad.
But not all sifus are like that.
Take Care,
What I’m saying is, with the way a lot of people train, they’ll never have any thing worth while. If you look at the post, I say my friend is gonna make a helluva a Shuai Chiao player because he has heart. He understands that on occasion, he’ll get hurt. He’ll have the wind knocked out of him regularly. There will be busted lips and black eyes on occasion. Hopefully he wont break something, but the possibility exists.
That’s just how it is. You can create a safe environment, or you can create an effective environment. You can’t really have both. If you can accept the idea that you will get hurt and then train hard, in accordance with the traditional tools, you will get good. Otherwise, you will not.
The reason Gong Fu sucks in 2002, is that too many practitioners are unwilling to accept the pain and hard work that are essential to solid training. If they never eat the bitter, how can they taste the sweet?
Waterdragon
You’re making me nervous man…
Surely safety and effectiveness can be compromised?
And nobody say “we don’t compromise our effectiveness” because if you have always got broken knees, arms, fractured ribs etc. then you’re not going to be very effective are you?
Scotty1,
Within reason. Boxing injuries and Thai boxing injuries and Judo injuries happen all the time, and do so within the context of “safe.”
What he’s saying is you can have an environment devoid of occasional full contact, continuous sparring with appopriate safety gear and precautions, which is “safe,” and none-to-effective,
Or, you can have the full contact, continuous sparring with appropriate measures, run the moderate risk of injury, and know that what you do will work on somebody who doesn’t want you to do it.