Debbie lost 50, pretty much stopped working out, and only gained back 5
son i had lost 55 i think, without any atkins, ODDkins, or WANkins (oh wait… that i did)
i regained some 10 or 15, i dont know
mostly for slacking + lakc of motivation + boring plateu
it really pains me that after all the hard work i had done for that weight loss i still dont feel good enough to even take me focking shirt of and go to the beach
its sad to be me!
yes, i do look that bad!
See, I think there is a falacy in weight loss. Everyone promotes “Thier” diet or method by trashing others…mostly by saying other methods are only temporary. Example “XYZ lost 50 on ZXY plan”. The reply is “Oh yeah, but that plan sux they allways gain it back when they stop”
Well, as soon as you stop ANY plan, and go back to sucking down Cheesburgers, fries and double helpings, your GONNNAAA gain the weight back!!
Also, since I have been looking into this, the results on Atkins aren’t all that impressive. It seems at the one year mark, atkins weigth loss is no more significant than eating a diet of raw friuts and veggies, keeping your animal intake sensible while controlling portion size and just exerciseing more.
So when it comes to us, our best bet is to just practice our art, and eat healthy.
Others, Like Debbie, can do what they want, and what works for them, even if it’s harmfull.
As a general lurker without much to say, I did want to add in to this discussion. I’m a newly certified personal trainer and “fitness professional” (by no means an expert) and I’m really bugged by this whole Atkin’s/South Beach bs. Not only is it unhealthy but it ultimately cuts into my bottom line. Potential clients who could truly benefit from my services risk taking their health in an adverse direction just so that they may take the easy way out. Many don’t realize that exclusively focusing on the short term often brings problems in the long term.
From what I read there is a great deal of good sense amongst the posters here about what constitues a good diet. Avoiding highly processed foods is certainly the best piece of advice. The second is listening to your body and the cues it gives you. One thing I did want to add, however, is the frequency of eating. The latest school of thought is smaller more frequent meals throughout the day. Instead of three square meals, try grazing slowly through the day spreading your calorie intake over five or six small meals, eating every two to three hours. My layman's understanding is that eating this way allows your body to relax about storing food for energy. It gets used to eating more often and doesn't need to store as much fat as it's prepped to take in new nutrition on a more frequent basis.
Another side of Atkins
From the NY Post:
According to a revealing new biography by Lisa Rogak titled “Dr. Robert Atkins: The True Story of the Man Behind the War on Carbohydrates,” Atkins was notorious for bedding his patients and nurses.
“Atkins had developed a reputation as being good in bed, and, inevitably, a number of women - who may or may not have benefited from his take on weight-loss - visited the office and became his patient solely to have sex with him,” Rogak wrote.
One unnamed woman now old enough to be receiving Social Security said she remembered how she stuck to the Atkins’ diet even though she secretly thought it was unhealthy.
“I could always lose the weight, that wasn’t the problem,” she shared. “I just wanted to jump his bones.”
He apparently was infamous among his friends for hiring pretty nurses at his practice.
“He liked women with nice-looking ankles,” recalled Bernard Raxlen, a physician colleague.
More than a few times, Atkins would romance a nurse for a couple weeks, then cast her aside for the next good-looking woman who walked into his office, Rogak wrote.
Atkins’ luck with the ladies went all the way back to his college days, when he always was dressed to the nines and loved to please a crowd with his Danny Kaye impressions, Rogak wrote.
“Boy, did he date,” recalled Larry Stein, a Dayton, Ohio, real-estate developer who was Atkins’ fraternity brother when they attended the University of Michigan in the 1950s.
“Though he never dated any one girl on a steady basis. . . . They were knockouts.”
His constant flirtations didn’t always go over well though. While doing postgraduate medical training in Boston, several nurses had to carefully orchestrate plans to avoid Atkins when making after-work plans.
“He flirted with all of us, waiting to see if he could talk one of us into going home with him for the night,” remembered former nurse Barbara Stinson.
As word of his diet spread, his fame grew and so did his prowess with women.
But his catting around apparently came to an end when he met his wife, Veronica Luckey, a classy divorc?e who wouldn’t put up with his cheating ways, when he was 56.
“Veronica made it clear from the beginning that she would not put up with any philandering,” Rogak wrote.
They stayed married until Atkins died in April 2003 after slipping on an icy Manhattan sidewalk.
She was his staunchest defender when criticism arose after his death about the risks of his famous high-fat, high-protein diet.
“I want him to be remembered for his courage,” Veronica Atkins is quoted as saying.
Originally published on January 8, 2005
Originally posted by MoreMisfortune
[B]son i had lost 55 i think, without any atkins, ODDkins, or WANkins (oh wait… that i did)
i regained some 10 or 15, i dont know
mostly for slacking + lakc of motivation + boring plateu
it really pains me that after all the hard work i had done for that weight loss i still dont feel good enough to even take me focking shirt of and go to the beach
its sad to be me!
yes, i do look that bad! [/B]
that’s a mental issue, bud, not a physical one. I know guys who are WAY bigger than you who walk outside with no shirt.
Re: Another side of Atkins
Originally posted by Andy62
[B]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From the NY Post:
According to a revealing new biography by Lisa Rogak titled “Dr. Robert Atkins: The True Story of the Man Behind the War on Carbohydrates,” Atkins was notorious for bedding his patients and nurses.
“Atkins had developed a reputation as being good in bed, and, inevitably, a number of women - who may or may not have benefited from his take on weight-loss - visited the office and became his patient solely to have sex with him,” Rogak wrote.
One unnamed woman now old enough to be receiving Social Security said she remembered how she stuck to the Atkins’ diet even though she secretly thought it was unhealthy.
“I could always lose the weight, that wasn’t the problem,” she shared. “I just wanted to jump his bones.”
He apparently was infamous among his friends for hiring pretty nurses at his practice.
“He liked women with nice-looking ankles,” recalled Bernard Raxlen, a physician colleague.
More than a few times, Atkins would romance a nurse for a couple weeks, then cast her aside for the next good-looking woman who walked into his office, Rogak wrote.
Atkins’ luck with the ladies went all the way back to his college days, when he always was dressed to the nines and loved to please a crowd with his Danny Kaye impressions, Rogak wrote.
“Boy, did he date,” recalled Larry Stein, a Dayton, Ohio, real-estate developer who was Atkins’ fraternity brother when they attended the University of Michigan in the 1950s.
“Though he never dated any one girl on a steady basis. . . . They were knockouts.”
His constant flirtations didn’t always go over well though. While doing postgraduate medical training in Boston, several nurses had to carefully orchestrate plans to avoid Atkins when making after-work plans.
“He flirted with all of us, waiting to see if he could talk one of us into going home with him for the night,” remembered former nurse Barbara Stinson.
As word of his diet spread, his fame grew and so did his prowess with women.
But his catting around apparently came to an end when he met his wife, Veronica Luckey, a classy divorc?e who wouldn’t put up with his cheating ways, when he was 56.
“Veronica made it clear from the beginning that she would not put up with any philandering,” Rogak wrote.
They stayed married until Atkins died in April 2003 after slipping on an icy Manhattan sidewalk.
She was his staunchest defender when criticism arose after his death about the risks of his famous high-fat, high-protein diet.
“I want him to be remembered for his courage,” Veronica Atkins is quoted as saying.
Originally published on January 8, 2005 [/B]
lol @ atkins being a pimp
Originally posted by SevenStar
that’s a mental issue, bud, not a physical one. I know guys who are WAY bigger than you who walk outside with no shirt.
well, everything is a mental issue
who one is, who one wants to be, everything that he feels and everything that he wants for himself and for the people around are mental issues
Thing is Xebby…
you go to the beach and you see a huge fat person and for the first couple of seconds you think “man, that person is really big” and then you realize that person couldn’t care less about what other people think and is playing with thier kids or throwing a frisbee or swimming in the ocean or getting a nice tan or laughing with friends or whatever and you gotta remember that it’s all about how much you’re getting out of your life, not what you look like doing it.
Don’t be so critical of yourself, or by the time you’re wise enough not to care anymore, you’ll be too old to walk.
carpe diem, xebs.
edit: I am the queen of run-on sentences
Originally posted by Ming Yue
then you realize that person couldn’t care less about what other people think and is playing with thier kids or throwing a frisbee or swimming in the ocean
If fatso was inclined to do any of those things, then he wouldn’t be a fatso.
Have ya missed me?
that’s not always the case, you backwards wrong-hemisphere-livin’ curmudgeon. There’s lots of folks out there who manage to consume enough calories to stay fat despite getting out occasionally.
hell yea I missed ya.
thanx for the helpful words but
i think it was 2002, the last tiem i was shirtless at the beach after non stop bugging from me bro and me cousins…
i remember a chick looking at me with that “feeling sorry” for me look and another 3 or more cute chicks starring and doing a little laughs. after giving em a look of wtf and turning me back they laugh again
sure…
awesome time for me…
Re: Whats everyones thoughts on atkins?
Originally posted by Royal Dragon
can annyone explain the bio Chemistry from a NON atkins perspective? (Ie does the biochemistry reallly work the way atkins says it does, or is it all just medical/tech pshyco-babble?)
I haven’t read the thread, so apologies if this has been said:
(i) Body (muscles, internal organs, brain, etc) uses carbs for energy, protein for muscle building, fat is stored (when carbs are plentiful).
(ii) Remove carbs from diet - body starts to switch to another fuel source - stored fats. Takes a few days to adapt. Eat lots of protein so muscle wastage is minimised. Eat a bunch of (good - Atkins ignores this IIRC) fats. Adaptation should be pretty complete if the dieter follows a strict diet. A very high percentage of muscle fuel comes from ketones.
Does it work? I’ve got a book with a bunch of journal references that show the effectiveness of ketosis for fat loss. Is it optimal? Maybe, maybe not. Keep in mind that “Atkins” isn’t the only ketosis diet. Others may be more effective and suitable. South Beach is one IIRC? Bodyopus, etc, etc.
Skims thread quickly
Lol! OK, it’s all been said :p.
He, he he, thanks anyway!! 
Originally posted by MoreMisfortune
i remember a chick looking at me with that “feeling sorry” for me look and another 3 or more cute chicks starring and doing a little laughs. after giving em a look of wtf and turning me back they laugh again
You shoulda taken the opportunity to make one of them “Gracie in Action” tapes and challenged them right there on the beach.
“Xebby in Action”…YEAH!
And don’t worry if you’re squimish about hitting girls, you ain’t gotta; all you gotta do is drop into guard and pull a triangle on 'em…
“Ain’t laughing now are yah? SMELL THE XEBBY FUNK!”
When they pass out you can carry them up to the mountains with a case of beer and yer favorite slayer cd. Then you can make a sacrifice to the METAL GODS!
I hate takin my shirt off too, but i ain’t gonna take any cr@p from people if I do.
this right here should be enough reason to not go atkins:
Good point. However in Atkin’s defense, would a short term cycle of lets say 3 months, cause this?
LOL, just had a phone conversation with both of them. Pro Atkins says it BETTER for athletics becasue it stabalises blood sugar.
ER Nurse says she’s nuts becasue the body can’t convert fat to glucose efficiently, so we need it from our food, ESPECIALLY for athletic endevours.
Told this to Mrs. Pro Atkins, and she just don’t belive it. :eek:
My Daughter’s diet consited of a good breakfast of raw fruit, a lunch that was raw vEggies, and some sort of light meat, like a small amount of hamburger, or chicken. A light pre practice meal of rice and raw veggies, and a dinner of mostly all meats like fish, chicken and beef.
Breakfast would have eggs too form time to time, or she’d be snacking on mixed nuts or trail mix.
Then idea was alot of carbs from rich, raw plant sources early, little protine, and bt he end of the day it is reversed + a high carb meal right before her 4 hour workout.
She is strong, fast, well balanced with major endurance, and hardly ever gets sick.
What we feed her is almost the opposite of Atkins, but she’s probably the healthiest person I know.
Originally posted by MoreMisfortune
[B]thanx for the helpful words but
i think it was 2002, the last tiem i was shirtless at the beach after non stop bugging from me bro and me cousins…
i remember a chick looking at me with that “feeling sorry” for me look and another 3 or more cute chicks starring and doing a little laughs. after giving em a look of wtf and turning me back they laugh again
sure…
awesome time for me… [/B]
like I said, it’s mental. What they think of you does not make you - what you think of you does. Shake them haters off, son.