a good Set was created to serve a purpose in a unique way.
and the purpose cannot be everything.
also it can not be as everyone intepletation — or as one likes it.
It got nothing todo with who one learn it from or the name or title of one’s sifu.
So what is doing SLT is for? Be totally specific which can back up by your ability which attain by doing SLT.
You go first..
I would say that one of the main purposes of SLT is to teach the practitioner how to move from one hand position to another in a most economical way, while maintaining good alignment and a connection with the root. If practiced in a certein way, it also teaches how to move your hands as effortlesly as possible.
The combination of this three aspects contributes to the development and understanding of how to transition from diffrent hand positiones in a efficient manner (in the sense of movement and energy usage) yet still having your whole unified upper-lower body behind every move, contributing to the maximum power potential behind every attack or defence in WCK.
If performed in a certein way, it also hightenes awarnes of your own body, and thus teaches a form of sensitivety, which can then also be applyed to external stimulus. In simpler words, you can train yourself to allways seek the path of minimum resistance and your maximum structural strength; but trying to achieve both at the same time.
BTW, I too would aslo like to hear what you think on the subject, Hendrik.
i can’t help but to read “SLT” not as “ESS ELL TEE” or Sil lum tao..but “****”
that said..i have no problems with doing SLT
“force of idea”
[QUOTE=JPinAZ;985626]You go first..[/QUOTE]
Hey, HE’S asking the questions here, not you! :mad:
[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;985983]Hey, HE’S asking the questions here, not you! :mad:[/QUOTE]
There you go specubating in public…again!!:eek:
Sil Lim Tao is basically for beginners. It is a complete form designed to teach form and distance as well as the hand positions and weapons. First, you develop your stance. Second, you define center line. Everything is done on center line. This form will cement that concept. You learn all the defensive pary and block techinques as well as the hand weapons while in stance. You learn to space your feet accurately and assume the bent knee. You do everything on center line until it is solidly engrained into your habits. If you want to use tan sao, you do it on your own center line, and you will shift at the hip or feet to achieve an angle if need be, but the technique remains on your center line. This is what Sil lim tao teaches you. Once you have this form perfectly cemented into habit you move on to the Chum Kil form. This form then teaches you to move and shift about while applying the concepts you cemented with sil lim. It is all contained in sil lim, but there are no secrets and nothing is hidden.
[QUOTE=JPinAZ;985626]You go first..[/QUOTE]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-o7lPtPObY
( not a hero , will not read the tri kingdom)
( if one is a hero, how could one doesnt know loneliness?)
(a love afair influence by a chaotic era, who will have the time to warm the wine and discuss who is the hero of the heros)
(hundreds years of turbulence, everything start from scratch again.)
[QUOTE=INicba;985678]
BTW, I too would aslo like to hear what you think on the subject, Hendrik.[/QUOTE]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwZjOLCc_2E&feature=related
( Wind arive here become sticky)
(Sticking the traveller’s mind)
( I rather burried at this point)
(circle round circle)
( when one’s dream buried within the southern fog and rain)
( one will realize it after the mind is broken.)
[QUOTE=Lee Chiang Po;986066]Sil Lim Tao is basically for beginners. It is a complete form designed to teach form and distance as well as the hand positions and weapons. First, you develop your stance. Second, you define center line. Everything is done on center line. This form will cement that concept. You learn all the defensive pary and block techinques as well as the hand weapons while in stance. You learn to space your feet accurately and assume the bent knee. You do everything on center line until it is solidly engrained into your habits. If you want to use tan sao, you do it on your own center line, and you will shift at the hip or feet to achieve an angle if need be, but the technique remains on your center line. This is what Sil lim tao teaches you. Once you have this form perfectly cemented into habit you move on to the Chum Kil form. This form then teaches you to move and shift about while applying the concepts you cemented with sil lim. It is all contained in sil lim, but there are no secrets and nothing is hidden.[/QUOTE]
True.
if it stays this simple then there is no WCK in 1850 which CLF seek approve.
There sure have no secret, it is only some sees the depth some not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXk-olWM52U&feature=related
( Drink the cross glass wine, Illusion is so beautiful)
(sweet square sugar jump into the bitter coffee)
( believe it is real, pain cause tears)
( not regret and still could withdraw)
( could withdraw, get drunk after awaken.)
[QUOTE=Hendrik;986098]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwZjOLCc_2E&feature=related
( Wind arive here become sticky)
(Sticking the traveller’s mind)
( I rather burried at this point)
(circle round circle)
( when one’s dream buried within the southern fog and rain)
( one will realize it after the mind is broken.)[/QUOTE]
I had my doubts at first. But I have come to the conclusion that this forum is a wealth of information beyond anyones imagination.
[QUOTE=INicba;986110]I had my doubts at first. But I have come to the conclusion that this forum is a wealth of information beyond anyones imagination.[/QUOTE]
When I begain training in WCK, there was a severe scarcity of info on WCK. Today, there is an overwhelming abundance of info on WCK. The problem is between 5 and 95% of that info is complete bullsh1t. Ferreting out the useful info from that BS takes very hard work.
[QUOTE=t_niehoff;986118]When I begain training in WCK, there was a severe scarcity of info on WCK. Today, there is an overwhelming abundance of info on WCK. The problem is between 5 and 95% of that info is complete bullsh1t. Ferreting out the useful info from that BS takes very hard work.[/QUOTE]
I stand corrected. Indeed, technicaly speaking, everything that was said on this thread is information. Even the video&lyrics response to the question: “what is slt training is for?”.
I just wonder, Hendrik, did you expect that we should respond to your question with video&lyrics? If not, then I would appreciate the same curtisy I gave to you, when I tryed to answer your own question seriously.
That is unless you allready have the undoubtobly complete and correct answer to your question and you therefore feel no need to discuss it further, in which case I don’t see the point of making this thread. Unless, of course, you find it satisfying to read other peoples responses, who don’t know what they are talking about, while you have the correct answer.
On the other hand, there is the possibility that your response was sincere. In which case I would suggest checking out MTV; you might find it very enlightening on your martial arts journey.
[QUOTE=INicba;986120]I stand corrected. Indeed, technicaly speaking, everything that was said on this thread is information. Even the video&lyrics response to the question: “what is slt training is for?”.
I just wonder, Hendrik, did you expect that we should respond to your question with video&lyrics? If not, then I would appreciate the same curtisy I gave to you, when I tryed to answer your own question seriously.
That is unless you allready have the undoubtobly complete and correct answer to your question and you therefore feel no need to discuss it further, in which case I don’t see the point of making this thread. Unless, of course, you find it satisfying to read other peoples responses, who don’t know what they are talking about, while you have the correct answer.
On the other hand, there is the possibility that your response was sincere. In which case I would suggest checking out MTV; you might find it very enlightening on your martial arts journey.[/QUOTE]
Hendrik is a nut and demonstrates very little social skill. At least very little, what is considered, social skill in western societies. Perhaps he fits in well with other Asians, but he is apparently inept when attempting to socialize with westerners.
Hendrik has a reputation on this BB for being arrogant, narcissistic and obtuse. He acts as if he knows everything, but won’t deign to bestow any actual “wisdom” (read: “information”) on the “ignorant”!
He tends to criticize others without providing a rational argument, or information, for his opinion. He tries to act like the stereo-typical Asian wise man, but ends up looking like a fool!
Having said that, he does “accidentally” say something of value on rare occasions.
[QUOTE=INicba;986120]
I just wonder, Hendrik, did you expect that we should respond to your question with video&lyrics? If not, then I would appreciate the same curtisy I gave to you, when I tryed to answer your own question seriously.[/QUOTE]
for someone who derides others for their use of references to help them make their point, he sure does rely on the words of others to get his own across…apparently, he sees no contradiction here…
[QUOTE=INicba;986110]I had my doubts at first. But I have come to the conclusion that this forum is a wealth of information beyond anyones imagination.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps, it is not about imagination but break through and break lose one’s mind set?
Perhaps, the communication needs to be carry out beyond imagination or speculation thoughts and in the platform of awareness or sensory where reality exist before the mind/thoughts starts?
[QUOTE=INicba;986120]
I just wonder, Hendrik, did you expect that we should respond to your question with video&lyrics?
If not, then I would appreciate the same curtisy I gave to you, when I tryed to answer your own question seriously.
[/QUOTE]
If you get what is my message, feel free to respond with anything.
It is just a matter of what path one choose for communication any way.
There is no different between a lyrics of a song and a Kuen Kuit or Kor Kuit if it is pointing at the same moon.
BTW. seriousness in the thoughts and mind realm is just one of “story”/" alabi (sp?) among the millions of reasoning/alabi in the platform of awareness and sensory where one directly tap into the reality.
So, who is more serious? those who keep demand answer in the mind /reasoning realm or those who point the moon directly bypassing the mind realm?
No one can applied the same tan sau identically twice and thus, that is how far reasoning goes. No one can step in the same flowing water twice. that is reality.
in my previous reply:
The lyrics said
( when one’s dream buried within the southern fog and rain)
( one will realize it after the mind is broken.)
When will you be able to see/realize the reality? only when your mind and dream or fantasy is broken or your mind is quiet or in Silence.
The mind of thinking keep replical mimic the set means training.
The dream of some how keep replical mimic the set will “walla” and awake and attain the kung fu.
The fantasy of standing there waving hands means training.
all these has to be broken, then you see the truth.
Am I serous? deadly serious beyond reasoning; and most dont like to be that serious but love to be social similar to it is not the GOD one like to know but it is the title and authority or position in the church/temple one likes to have.
but again, those are just my personal take and practice my free speech. I force it to no one.
[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;986123]Hendrik is a nut and demonstrates very little social skill. At least very little, what is considered, social skill in western societies. Perhaps he fits in well with other Asians, but he is apparently inept when attempting to socialize with westerners.
Hendrik has a reputation on this BB for being arrogant, narcissistic and obtuse. He acts as if he knows everything, but won’t deign to bestow any actual “wisdom” (read: “information”) on the “ignorant”!
He tends to criticize others without providing a rational argument, or information, for his opinion. He tries to act like the stereo-typical Asian wise man, but ends up looking like a fool!
Having said that, he does “accidentally” say something of value on rare occasions.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your comments.
BTW. I am not here to play “I kiss your A$$ you Kiss my A$$, and boost both to be the master and expert.” if that is what the social skill you are expecting and the society according to you.