Ali-
I don’t see why you should encounter any problems. You love Wing Chun and that’s all is needed!..All the best! sincerely. 
The legal problems, which he had with Randy, That started up a long time ago. I know the whole story (via) Fong’s wifeBACK IN 1988 or so, and that is the soul truth. Maybe you didn’t know him at that time or something. I respect Fong, so I will not but his business in the street.
Ali Hamad Rahim.
Name a master who didn’t have to deal with “seminar instant close doors disciples”( you get the idea!) and you win the prize!!!
I can see how randy felt that way. If Fong see talent he will make you feel like a personal student, from the time he see if and when you’re serious. Not too say that I’m good, with what I do. But Fong sure maid me feel that way.
Ali Hamad Rahim.
Response to Ali in brackets:
Man that’s was the bomb, and I played chi sao with him a lot, and became his demo partner for the whole seminar. And I wanted to be one of his students real bad. But for some reason I had too go threw his student Ken, in Chicago. Ken said that I would have too changed my religion, to Taoist or something, and I was not ready too do so.
((Ali-Becominga taoist to be a Fong student? Not a grain of truth
to that. Fong’s students come from many backgrounds and nationalities. Specific people that I am thinking of over the years- in their own personal backgrounds have been /are..Protestant, Catholic, Jewish, agnostic, atheist, Taoist, Buddhist, Hindu,
Confucian, Muslim, Sikh, Shinto etc in varying degrees and mixtures thereof. Ethnic backgrounds - as diverse as possible.
Because his TCMA and TCM background is considerable some of his explanations uses language at times from that background.
Like all of us he has his own private world- but there is absolutely no religious test for his wing chun or learning from him.
There is no gatekeeping by his students. Of course if a student has him up somewhere for a seminar- the students tend to the organizational details for that seminar.
His own seminars and events in Tucson- he and Mrs Fong orgabize them- again no secret handshake..
Both his practical skills and his wing chun analytical skills are formidable.
Because of his open nature there have been people on occasion who have attempted to take advantage of him. He dores not roam the net and much of the time he does not evn know what is said about him on the net.
He is an incredibly busy person- so email turnaround times can vary.
Originally posted by YongChun
In martial arts you should assume the guy is faster, stronger and heavier than you. If you can hit someone like that then you have a real martial art, you have real skill.
don’t assume… spar/compete with people who are in that category.
wonder if boxers and Thai boxers can handle people who outweigh them by more than 40 pounds any better than martial artists can. It seems the whole premise of martial art is that it is possible for a smaller individual to defeat a larger one. If the large one can’t fight or has less skill then of course it’s easy.
I always fight people bigger than me. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lost - I compete at about 220-230, so I am in the heaviest division. I have to fight anyone over 218, no matter how big they are. My most recent fight was with a guy who was 6’3 and 300. I lost by decision.
As far as grappling goes, I am in the same category in judo. I’ve beaten guys who not only outrank me, but outweigh me by 50 lbs. I’ve also lost to guys who outweigh me by the same amount. So, can I beat them? yes. Can I beat them all? Nah, but because of my experiences, I’m better equipped to handle such situations.
Originally posted by SevenStar
Ray:
In martial arts you should assume the guy is faster, stronger and heavier than you. If you can hit someone like that then you have a real martial art, you have real skill.
SevenStar:
don’t assume… spar/compete with people who are in that category.
All I mean is don’t be happy if you can beat up smaller people than yourself. Some people aim too low as in just trying to be better than some classmate. For example for a small lady to beat a larger guy, that takes real skill. My Hung style teacher figured a small lady would need 10 times the skill of the guy to beat him consistently.
Ray
In free sparring or developing your wing chun with drills, you should always accept defeat rather then desiring victory. This way you will not have “self” in the way (ego, force and stupidity), blocking your progress.
Ali Hamad Rahim.
Originally posted by Ali Hamad Rahim
In free sparring or developing your wing chun with drills, you should always accept defeat rather then desiring victory. This way you will not have “self in the way (ego, force and stupidity), blocking your progress.
Nice thinking.
That’s what I always thought.
A lot of people seem to do well with the ‘win win win’ mentality before ring fights, and I’ve met some people who carry that over into everyday life too, but can’t say I like the attitude.
Nowadays I just punch and kick… and sometimes get submitted…!!! 
There’s no ego, only bruises and strains!
Joy,
Thanks for the long post - interesting, and a shame about the boxing venue plans.
As I doubt whether I’ll be able to get your way for a seminar, it would be great to see something in the next-best medium, some video footage. I know it offers little compared to hands on transmittion, but at least shows something.
You are quite right. I don’t ‘do’ Wing Chun anymore, but have a strong interest in it still as I do ‘deal’ with WCK I still meet a number of Wing Chunners and spar, work out with them etc.
And yes, my exposure to the art was small (three and a half years), but I believe a person, with that time spend training hard, can pick up enough to form an opinion that isn’t completely out of sorts with reality. I am lucky in that those WCK guys I work out with have 10+ years of experience I can learn a little from. I’m sure they aren’t the best practitioners in the world… but they are good and can fight!
Perhaps you could record some footage from your seminar and post it on your website to illustrate the Chi Sau in relation to fighting etc etc etc.
Cheers,
Duncan
is the bottom line,that although wing chun has it’s place;against mt and bjj,wing chun simply has too many holes to cope?
Russ
Notes on Russ’s post:
is the bottom line,that although wing chun has it’s place;against mt and bjj,wing chun simply has too many holes to cope?
Bottom line of what? Opinions? This ai’nt an election.
But anyone can have an opinion. Mine?:
Conceptually wing chun is a complete art. Period.
But it all depends on individual exponents(dedication, practice,experience) and the ability and depth of the teaching/learning and knowledge of the art..
Many exponents who I have seen over quite some time- should quit wing chun and do mma, jkd, joe’s ma- etc- but not call what they do wing chun.
On the short run lots of styles can produce good “fighters”. Depends on the teacher and the practitioner.