Went to the WKF championships last night.

Just some observations…

  1. I have a lot of training to do…

  2. Judging from the ice packs and severe limps on the winners, there has to be a better way to block low kicks.

  3. Any sport where you have to block low kicks with your shins all night is nuts.:eek:

  4. The Jaw Ga folks do very pretty forms, still can’t tell if they can fight.

  5. Don’t do any forms where you wave a fan.

  6. I hate demos with kids. There was a demo last night where the kids looked like mini Kobra Kai. They did a nunchuk kata that didn’t have one actual chuk technique. Just lots of swinging and yelling. Afterwards they posed with the ring girls.

  7. A side kick gives alot of bang for the buck. Watched a guy beat almost everyone of his opponents round kicks with a side kick. At least two of the kicks knocked the opponent on his butt and most knocked him back.

8)Heavyweights seem to resort more to brawling type tactics when winded.

9)Middleweights seem to have the best balance of technique and power.

10)Mike Moses did a very nice BJJ demo. I’ll even go as far as to say it was smooth and beautiful. They were smiling and having fun in contrast to the serious looks of the kobra kai and Jaw ga kids.

  1. The music they play during Muay Thai bouts is annoying.

  2. I’m so tired of seeing a fighters crew, most of who do nothing, doing the Gracie train when coming to the ring.

    1. I have a lot of training to do…
  1. The music they play during Muay Thai bouts is annoying.

Blasphemer!!

  1. Don’t do any forms where you wave a fan.

slowly puts fan away

10)Mike Moses did a very nice BJJ demo.

How did he go about demoing BJJ?

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where was this tournament?

  1. The Jaw Ga folks do very pretty forms, still can’t tell if they can fight.

Blasphemer… its Jow Ga btw :wink:

“”“6) I hate demos with kids. There was a demo last night where the kids looked like mini Kobra Kai. They did a nunchuk kata that didn’t have one actual chuk technique. Just lots of swinging and yelling. Afterwards they posed with the ring girls.”“”

= ) Ring girls rules

“”““7) A side kick gives alot of bang for the buck. Watched a guy beat almost everyone of his opponents round kicks with a side kick. At least two of the kicks knocked the opponent on his butt and most knocked him back.””"

This, I have noticed aswell

  1. The music they play during Muay Thai bouts is annoying.

What Watchman said ; )

ZhouJiaQuan, Richmond area, Deep Run High School. The Jow ga guy doing the fan form was pretty good and got a big pop when he did this flip off of his head, but every time he snapped open that fan and waved in front of his face like Scarlet O’Hara the comments were traded. I think given the venue a nice two man form would have gone over well. I won’t take anything away from what he did as he must have trained his baxide off to do that form.

How did he go about demoing BJJ?
By sticking his thumbs in his belt, sticking out his chin and proclaiming “BJJ Rules!” He then sewed 12 bad boy patches and a brazilian flag onto his kimono in 63 seconds. Very impressive. :smiley:

Mike had a partner and they just kind of flowed from take down, to counter to counter to arm bar. Reminded me of flow drills Aikidoka do but this was mostly on the ground. As a parent, based on all the demos they had I’d pick the BJJ as they seemed to be having the most fun.

ahh, i know who it was. that form is nice(very,very nothern set), he does work hard… there are some tough fighters from that school too :smiley:

they also have tons of fun training, real nice school and people training there.

Peace

That’s good to hear ZhouJiaQuan, one day I’ll have to check them out. I don’t think what they do is for me, but I always like to see new things. Props to the guy for doing some moves that very few in the building, myself especially, could dream of pulling off.

“Any sport where you have to block low kicks with your shins all night is nuts”

Come up with a better option and thousands of kickboxers over the last hundreds of years will be very thankful :stuck_out_tongue:

  1. Don’t do any forms where you wave a fan.

ehem… watch it buddy…lol

  1. I have a lot of training to do…

Me too

Come up with a better option and thousands of kickboxers over the last hundreds of years will be very thankful
OK, WTF/Olympic TKD. All the kicking you want without the shin damage. As a bonus you save money on hand wraps and gloves!:smiley:

Don’t do any forms where you wave a fan.
I think the guys making the snide remarks were from a local TKD school. :wink:

A someone into the martial arts I was disappointed in the turnout, especially it being championships. I’ve seen better draws at point tournaments and even belt testings. No one in my school knew about it and I didn’t see a large showing from the local gyms that were fighting or even the schools of those who were demoing.
As an audience member it also got a bit boring after the first 9 fights or so. I was even hoping maybe some monks would do circus tricks or some guy would do an empty force demo. For $20 a ticket I thought they could have done better. A nice sanda or san shou exibition fight would have been real sweet.

from jow ga guys

hey rogue, thanx for the post, hope u enjoyed the tournament. actually, most of the guys from the richmond jow ga school are pretty good fighters as well(a pretty much rare occurence). their sifu learned wushu and shaolinquan(among other things) before he learned jow ga, so he seems to know how to bring the elaborate side of the forms out well. although before that, he was already a pretty accomplished boxer and fighter. so those students have a not so common blend of a beautiful butterfly w/ the sting of a bee for a teacher.

so i take we can look foward to seein u @ the upcomin tournament in washington,DC? we’ll all be attendin, and we’ll be competin in beginner, intermediate, advanced and senior divisons, so u’ll get a better idea of how we spar. then again, its only sparrin, so u might not get that good of an idea. hope to see u up there, better yet it’d be great to compete against ya. good luck.

mysteri, what kind of tourny in DC and what are the details? The next one I’m going to try to hit is the Excalibre one in August. But I’d love to see you guys in action.
Do you know of any reason why they didn’t do something to really show the applications side of the style? To me forms and kata are just a series of moves without knowing the context of the techniques.

better yet it’d be great to compete against ya
The way I’m going lately I couldn’t compete against my granny. :smiley: I need a hulluva lot more gym time, ring time and conditioning.

rogue

You need one of these :smiley:

Originally posted by rogue
[B] OK, WTF/Olympic TKD. All the kicking you want without the shin damage. As a bonus you save money on hand wraps and gloves!:smiley:

I mean another defense for leg kicks :slight_smile:

I mean another defense for leg kicks
Taking up a sport where some guy is not trying to break your legs is a great defense!:smiley:

LOL Gene.:slight_smile:

I take it the “W” in WKF Championship stands for “World”?
Were there any competitors from outside the US?

rogue

thanx for the reply. i hope ur not lookin for tiger claws and panther strikes, cuz of course its jus a tournament. the richmond sifu seems to favor a lot of the northern aspects so thats prolly how u will see them fight. of course i can’t speak for everyone, and i don’t expect that we’ll simply SWEEP the tournament, but i can definitely say that we’re not simply forms specialist. the kind of techniques u may see would be mainly san da type techniques.

about the tournament ( http://wongchineseboxing.com/2003tournament.html ). a tournament geared toward traditional styles. this will be my first year @ this particular tournament, though my school has competed in years past. though we’ve only managed to come in 2nd and 3rd as far as tournament rankin as a school. sifu yee chi wai definitely has some tough competitors(i’ve seen the video footage). so this year, i don’t even really expect to place in forms. but i’ll be happy to be in top 3, if not win my division. i think i’ll play by the rules in this tournament. we’ll jus see how much they **** me off :slight_smile:

don’t u study TKD or somethin? i wouldn’t really expect to compete against u really. but i hope u enjoy the tournament if u come.

fu-pau,
hey bro, i see u study jow ga in australia. who’s ur sifu? if u’d prefer, u can PM me and we can chat. good to see more jow/chow bros poppin up.

Originally posted by mysteri
fu-pau,
hey bro, i see u study jow ga in australia. who’s ur sifu? if u’d prefer, u can PM me and we can chat. good to see more jow/chow bros poppin up.

Mysteri,

Good to see a fellow chow gar brother! :slight_smile:

I can’t PM you coz I’m at work and therefore don’t have the PM option switched on.
As for my Sifu, since he is very traditional and I have so much respect for him, I made the conscious decision not to name him in public forums. The reason is that my opinions here are merely that, my opinions, and I do not want people to attribute anything that I may say to my Sifu, or more to the point for anything that I may say to reflect badly upon my Sifu.

If you don’t mind saying whom your Sifu is I would be interested to know? If you don’t wish to say, that’s ok I understand.

I was curious though that you had used the quote of a CLF Sifu in your signature? Do you know Sifu Lacey?

LIGHT contact sparring? 30 second rounds? Blood drawn is disqualification? No contact to the head, basically? WTF?!

WongChineseBoxing tournament sparring rules…

Why bother?

Cuz last year we had too many people being taken out on stretchers and until we get insurance issues sorted out for full contact; we don’t want to be known as “the bloodbath tournament”.