Hey,
I’m looking for a place that sells wingchun weapons online in the UK, do you know a place?
Searched around and still no luck 
If you know a good place please share the knowledge.
If not wingchun weapons any will do (no I’m not a crazy person) 
Thanx
http://www.afs-wingchun.demon.co.uk/
http://www.pendleburytkd.co.uk/trolleyed/17/
also, you should ask in this chatroom:
http://www.chatwingtsunkuen.co.uk/
Weapons
Anyone know where u can buy a good Tai Chi Sword in new zealand
weapons
I was just reading over this thread:
http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=26006
It started me wondering. People testing for black belt (in the case of that thread) often have to demonstrate proficiency with a weapon or two.
So how do you train that proficiency? How do you demonstrate it? The poster mentioned weapon forms. Do most people just do that? Demonstrations (like hitting produce with swords)? Sparring?
What are people’s opinions on what’s required for ‘weapon proficiency’ in the context of a martial arts curriculum?
Stuart B.
In our school, weapons proficiency means you can use it free sparring without knocking yourself in the head. You can demonstrate control and have a working knowledge of combat techniques. When we spar with the weapons, we use rubber-tipped or wooden weapons, and we wear hand/head gear. For chains, we use jump ropes.
On our final test, which makes you an assistant instructor, you only need to know 3 weapons forms, but you have to demonstrate proficiency in at least 5 weapons. We teach 18 weapons in all.
Weapons sparring isn’t done until you’ve been there for quite a while, and it really isn’t a huge focus of the curriculum. More for tradition than anything else.
I’ve done some free sparring with padded weapons, but it isn’t required. We have talked about doing more of that though. Most of our weapon work is forms and two man weapon sets.
Masterkiller,
Nice. I wish I could see that.
Judge Pen,
Which padded weapons have you worked with? Sticks? Staffs? Knives? Nunchaku?
Nice. I wish I could see that.
It sounds better than it looks. Even padded and wooden weapons sting, and it rarely lasts more than two or three hits into the session.
What you really find out is that, for the most part, one good whack with a weapon can stop a fight. I was almost knocked out with a staff once, and I was wearing headgear when I got hit.
Well, I’ve done a lot of weapons sparring, drills, etc. In FMA, you’re working with weapons from Day 1. But it would be fascinating to see Chinese weaponry sparring.
Originally posted by apoweyn
[B]Masterkiller,
Nice. I wish I could see that.
Judge Pen,
Which padded weapons have you worked with? Sticks? Staffs? Knives? Nunchaku? [/B]
Short sticks, staffs, and rubber knives. We did staff v. staff and staff v. short stick.I liked the knife sparring best, but it was knife vs empty hand. That was a long time ago under my first teacher.
Try knife vs. longstaff, for a lark. It was ugly when we did it.
If I were a betting man, I’d be putting my money on the dude with the knife.
Yeah, me too. Someone who knows what they are doing with a knife would win against pretty much any non-edged, non-projectile weapon
I dunno. If you use the staff like a traditional CMA, where you hold it on the end to maximize the space between you and the attacker, I think a staff would be OK. I have used a staff to fight off someone using double swords. Granted, it was just sparring, but it seemed to work well enough, and those swords have a decent reach when you use them in tandem.
Holding it the JMA way, in the middle, puts you too close to the knife.
Well, I don’t know what this means for SD, but we use the staff in both ways. We spin it from the middle and hold on to and end to spin it around and to also parry and thrust similar to a spear.
My point with the knife v. spear is that it is an inside vs. an outside weapon. If they can get inside the knife will do more damage. Someone who knows what they are doing may be able to time a swing or a spin well enough to rush and do some damage while only taking superficial hits with the staff.
It depends on severl factors, but I’ve seen some people that were very good with a knife, and I have much respect for their ability.
Heck, they can always throw the knife!
What are people’s opinions on what’s required for ‘weapon proficiency’ in the context of a martial arts curriculum?
I think the main criteria should be: can the person use longer weapons vs shorter ones (and vice versa) in long, medium, and short range. Secondly, can the person empty handed hang vs an attacker with a weapon (long, short, or flexible.)
Our group would start you with double sticks drills in the air, 15 minutes later we will take one stick away and run through all the ranges, striking with one stick on 5 or 12 “angles,” then quickly breeze through 2 (“snake and vine”) disarms vs 1 or two angles. After about 30 - 45 minutes of this we would have you sparr vs someone (senior student) with padded sticks and gloves and headgear.
Some fun and cool “drills:” Knife spar with highlighters or markers, wear goggles… sit back to back with a training partner, shut off the lights in the dojo, have another person shine a light in your eyes and then toss a knife somewhere in the room, as soon as you hear the knife hit the mats, go… get everyone in a circle, put 1 guy in the middle, eyes shut, pass a knife around the circle and someone yell go, everyone attacks, knife or not, object is to stay on your feet and disarm the blade.
…and for skill/attribute development, “tapping” is a sensitivity drill with a knife or knives.
What you really find out is that, for the most part, one good whack with a weapon can stop a fight. I was almost knocked out with a staff once, and I was wearing headgear when I got hit.
Indeed.
:eek:
single and double short sticks (kung fu and arnis versions)
eyebrow height staff.
cane length stick (hanbo, I think to the japanese stylists)
hooked cane (not much at all, really)
nunchaku (chinese and japanese versions)
short blade
Proficiency should be the ability to escape major damage from someone else of comparable or better ability who is wielding their weapon of choice while wielding your weapon of choice.
I’ve sparred all of the above against all of the above with varying degrees of failure.
Staff fighters should know how to use that weapon in all ranges.
give me my chucks about any day of the week against anything else except a good double stick/knife fighter.
IMO, the most dangerous people you could seriosly fight against are double stick/knife fighters who really know wtf they are doing.
Originally posted by MasterKiller
[B]I dunno. If you use the staff like a traditional CMA, where you hold it on the end to maximize the space between you and the attacker, I think a staff would be OK. I have used a staff to fight off someone using double swords. Granted, it was just sparring, but it seemed to work well enough, and those swords have a decent reach when you use them in tandem.
Holding it the JMA way, in the middle, puts you too close to the knife. [/B]
In theory, that makes sense. In practice… it may still make sense.
My experience was based on sparring in my school. And we got a lot more training on close-range weapons than long-range weapons. Much more practice with the footwork and entries it takes to get close with a knife than with staffwork.
In other words, my experiences aren’t representative of the whole, I’m sure.
That said, a mid grip is absolutely going to be a necessity if you’re going knife against staff. Wait, that’s a bit much. How about this: If the knife guy manages to close range, the staff guy is going to need some recourse at a shorter range. And I expect that’s going to mean shortening your grip to mid grip.
But I’m complete arse with a staff. So I’d love to see someone better than me in that experiment.
Stuart B.
When you strike with a staff in CMA, you pull the stick back like a pool cue until the you have a lot of staff behind you, then you snap it forward to hit; so, in essence, you can go from long to short, back to long, relatively quickly.
I wouldn’t want to fight a guy with a knife. But if I had to, I’d rather have a staff than nothing at all.
Plus, by whipping the staff, you can keep pretty much anyone at a 5-ft distance. Everyone always forgets that a staff whipped against the knee or shins can stop a fight just as quickly as a whack on the head.
Huh.
Well, I’ve learned something today. Cheers Masterkiller.
Stuart B.
Yeah, a 6’ staff being whipped at near full power can render a nasty welt… I was practicing this flower thing with a staff, hit myself in the calf… couldn’t stand for a good 30 seconds after it.