What is your fighting stance when you are just outside of kicking range of your opponent. Describe your leg and arm positions.
Does it matter to have a stance or can a WC offense be applied from any arm leg position?
Do you like to have one foot forward and the other back -
a front stance - or do you prefer to have both legs back - a square stance - as practiced in SLT.
For your hands do you like doing an extended man sao with one hand, have a defensive wu sao near the crook of the man sao arm, and how far do you extend your arms out – far away from your body or closer.
Do you like to keep your hands open and relaxed or more closed like forming a fist. Some have referred to the hands as swimming dragons. Do you think in terms of Triangle structure for using the arms?
When you are in your stance where do you focus at: opponent’s eyes, solar plexus, nearest elbow and knee, or just use peripheral vision to focus on everything?
The other issue to consider is if you are much closer to your opponent do you have time to get into stance and sink your body structure or do you just immediately react at what is thrown at you.
a stance should never be seen just felt
stay natural
once you assume a posture ‘‘traditional’’ you just gave the other guy way to much information about yourself and a way to defeat you.
you need to something about me ,
i’m trained in wing chun,savate ,kali,muay thai,and boxing
so i have many different faces.
if i’m in long ‘‘sniper range’’ i’m squared up mostly but loose and on my toes moving around and taking in what i’m up against .
looking for his posture seeing what information he gives me .
kind of like a baket ball player or a tennis player sort of but with my hands up higher .
i like to stay just outside of his range so he will have to lundge at me and open himself up .
i often leave center open like bait .
but i can do this because i have good footwork timing and interception skills . not recomended for every one,
once i close the gap i tighten up my defense elbows in body gets narrow wieght sinks and all that .
if it just happens out of the blue then i have no time for anthing else just fight and hpe sensitivity kicks in and i go home that day .
Originally posted by Ernie i’m squared up mostly but loose and on my toes moving around and taking in what i’m up against .
looking for his posture seeing what information he gives me .
kind of like a baket ball player or a tennis player sort of but with my hands up higher .
More like JKD, not Wing Chun…
This is a Wing Chun forum don’t forget.
Originally posted by yuanfen In usages- one needs to be able to defend from any posture,
Seems like a very general statement, but it is so very significant, especially when dealing with multiple fighters. That’s why moving around too much is not good.
The notion of “natural stance” is fibre with no water.
etw said[ More like JKD, not Wing Chun…
This is a Wing Chun forum don’t forget.]
i’ll pass on something that was said to me , ‘’ when your on the ground looking up at me with blood spewing out of you mouth , will it really matter how much wieght i had on what foot or what position my tan sau was in ??? ‘’
i don’t nor do i care to see every motion as this or that style or in what part of what form , those that look for validation in a form don’t really fight they just talk about it. i see timing ,balance,sensitivity,adjustability,speed,and power.
what ever i find to improve those skills i will try . i will not allow myself to be trapped by a doctrine. if it’s called flying big toe kung fu i don’t care as long as it gives me a way to progress. if you need the security blanket of a label and a bounch of groupeis to be part of the yes man club then that’s great . but please don’t include , or limit me to that small frame of thought.
might as well add me to your ignore list cuz i live in the real world, not the safty of wing chun class.
Originally posted by EnterTheWhip
[B] Seems like a very general statement, but it is so very significant, especially when dealing with multiple fighters. That’s why moving around too much is not good.
The notion of “natural stance” is fibre with no water. [/B]
Whip do you practice acting from a stationary stance when dealing with multiple opponents on a first in first served basis?
Otherwise do you use footwork to interpose opponents and ‘hopefully’ only have to deal with one at a time and not get surrounded?
I yuanfen beat me to the “stationary” concept. He’s absolutely right. Not stationary.
To answer your question… in a multiple opponent situation, you still move, but how much? With the typical “natural stance” as it is commonly understood, you’re asking for it. The way multiple opponent defenses are demonstrated these days is BS.
Of course, you deal with one person at a time making sure that you’re not surrounded. But the main thing is stance and the solidity of it.
(I’m half asleep right now, so this may be a pretty lame explanation.)
Of course, you can do whatever you like with what you learn. BUT, let’s call things as they are. What you talk about is JKD concepts, not Wing Chun. I’m sure you’d like to think that what you’re doing is Wing Chun. I can guarantee, it is not. It’s not even kung fu.