Originally posted by Ford Prefect
[B]Not really. The more water you drink, the less you’ll retain. While I agree that it is counter productive to drink a lot of water or any other fluid at a meal, I think that good amounts of water daily will not only aid in health but in appearence as well. Without the excess layer of water retained under the skin, you will have better definition and a harder look. You will also never be dehydrated which is also a good thing as well.
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Could you elaborate on this? Are you saying that by drinking more water you will lose weight, ceteris paribus?
I may be wrong but I think i spotted a few flaws with the link you posted.
1/ they say that coffie is a dieretic and will make you lose water. Now this is true if you are new to coffie but if you are a regular coffie drinker then your body will use it like water with no ill effects (hell i know people who litteraly JUST drink coffie and nothing else and they are still going strong).
2/ The article said that when you increase the amount of water you drink you will need to urinate more frequently, this is to flush your system but you will retern to a more normal level (or frequency) of urination after your body has adjusted?
So what happend does your bladder grow to twice its size? Do you sweat more? Water in must = water out (plus a bit more as you are looking to lose storred water to lose weight).
I think many people feel the urge to use the bathroom well before their bladder is full. This is supposedly a symptom of chronic dehydration. I drink between 2 and 3 litres of water a day and can attest that my experience is consistent with that article.
No. You just nitpicking. I am a regular coffee drinker. I switched to decaf two years ago. I noticed that it became easier to control my warter “leveles” if you will. I don’t wake up borderline dehydrated anymore. By the way, one way I can tell when I’m starting to get dehydrated is my hands feel stiff and swolen but I didn’t do any hand training the day before. Also, my ankles will feel stiff for no good reason.
Feel free to troll away.
This seems to be happening alot lately…
I drink between 5 and 6 quarts of water and decaf coffee or tea per day. I don’t urinate anymore frequently than I did before. I don’t get urinary tract infetions anymore, though. You need to reread the part that explains that not all of your water-loss is to urination. You also loose water sweating and some is even lost to just breathing, espesially in hot weather and in dry climates. Try the Auquasana hydration test that the autor recomended.
The thing about coffie is a fact not just my opinion. I read a paper on it a feww weeks age so gelive me unless u are a non regular coffie drinker then it wont dehidrate u.
And on the second point, unless you sweat or breath a hell of a lot more if you up your water intake levels then that water has to be going somewhere!! or am i wrong there?
I feel that I should at this point in theis thread point out that it can be very dangerouse to drink to much water. One of the most dangerouse aspects of drinking to much water is that the symptoms are similar to heat stroke … and if anyone thinks you have had to much sun or exersized in the sun then they are likely to get you to drink more water!!!
Your bodys thirst response is not a good way of judging weather you need water or not and haveing become thirsty your body may well ask for more water than it needs as it can take a long time for the thirst demand to switch off.
Drugs also have a major impact on your ability to balance the level of water in your body, as many people in this country get into trouble over doseing on drinking to much water while on extasy due to as over dose.
You’ll retain less water under your skin. You will obviously loose some weight, but not an amazing amount of weight. You may be thinking about how fighters cut “water weight” in order to make a weight class, which isn’t the same thing. They have to severely dehydrate themselves to do this.
Liokaukt- I’m not saying your body can’t adjust to the caffine; I’m saying it would do a better job with out it in the first place. Your argument is like that of a long-time smoker who also run marithons. He may think he is doing just fine. He may even be right. But that don’t chang the fact the the smoking is bad for him or that he would do better if he quit.
As far as water being bad for you in excess; I’ve heared that, too. I have never found anything to suport this, though. Well, beyond drowning, of course.
The thing that Likault refers to is when people party and take ecstasy. It seriously raises their core temp and then they dance like idiots and sweat heaps and get even hotter so they continually drink. The body’s signals get confused and they end up imbibing way too much water and “oversoak” brain tissue and organs.
I can’t remember the exact details and can’t be bothered looking it up. However, this is artifically induced due to the drug. In regular life, you’d be hard pressed to drink enough water to give you a problem. Ideally you want two or three litres per day.
I usually drink one or two coffees (cos I love the stuff!) and one or two cups of green tea a day. Otherwise I drink water pretty much continuously - usually at least 2 or 3 litres a day. I feel great for it. Sure, I tend to pee a lot, but it’s worth it. I train hard too, so I sweat an awful lot. Takes a lot to replace that.
One of the main things that I was refering to was a soldier that died here a few years ago.
He was on a traininng endurance run on a very hot day. His instructors knew all about the dangers of running for to long in the heat with out water so they gave all the guys running water to carry, access to more water along the route and instructed them to drink lots of water.
Now when this guy colapsed the imidiate response was to more or less force feed him water till he got to hospital…where he died.
Now what really happend was that he drank to much water…so colapsed…then was force feed water till he died.
Drinking to much water can be very bad for you and your body is very bad at knowing how much you need.
Right. You have to pretty much be a moron to overhydrate though. Why did only one guy in that run do it? Because they others were smart enough not to force themselves to drink that much water. And you do have to force yourself yourself to do it. There is a reason why it’s a rare occurence. Saying not to drink a good amount of water because of overhydration is like saying not to obey traffic lights at an intersection because there is a chance a tractor-trailer is running the red light at 100 mph.
FP- I wouldn’t go as far as calling the guy a moron. Never under-estemate the ability of the military to take a good idea, corrupt it, then force someone to follow the corruption to death.
Serp and Liokault- Those are good examples of extreme situations. Thanx. Do you know of any normal situations, though?
I know it is a bad idea to drink too much when your body temp is hot or when in moderate to sever dehydration. Your body will think it needs more, but it could put a person into shock. They should get no more then a sip every few minuts of warm water untill EMT getts there.
This point was made very trajicly two days ago at work. One of our drivers collapsed from the heat and the other drivers who got there first called 911 then force-fed him COLD WATER. He died that night. And it was the 911 operator who told them to do it!:mad: He’d collapsed from heat stroke and dehydration.
I was talking about overhydration. You have to be pretty dumb to keep stuffing water into your body to the point where negative side effects will occur. It’s a testament of will to even get close. It takes A LOT of water.
True. In a normal situation, your body will make you pass out or you’ll be too lethargic and week to drink any more. It’s pretty much the extreme situations you have to look out for.
By the way, one way I can tell when I’m starting to get dehydrated is my hands feel stiff and swolen but I didn’t do any hand training the day before. Also, my ankles will feel stiff for no good reason.
One of our drivers collapsed from the heat and the other drivers who got there first called 911 then force-fed him COLD WATER. He died that night.