Ok, I noticed recently since I started taking creatine, EAS protein drinks, and phoso fuel (creatine and phoso fuel by twin labs), I been drinking more water in a day than I have in a weeks time in the past. But I also take a **** alot. Like ALOT. Like 12 times a day (seriously, I counted). Sometimes within an hour of my last. Is this to be expected while taking creatine and drinking water while working out? Or am I getting screwed and being put in deep water? I don’t know who else here has had creatine and maybe pissed alot, but it is somewhat annoying, waking up at 2 am to ****.
It could be simply just the way your intaking it. When taking a creatine supplement it needs to be taken with juice not water, generically speaking the juice acts as a transporter, the muscles aborb the creatine better this way. If taking the creatine with just water it can go right through your system which could be why you go #2 so much.
It’s normal…when you are working out you are probably taking in more food…or your metabolic rate is greater which means your body is processing nutrients at a quicker rate. Creatine will still get into your cells with water but it’s maximized when sugar is added. The best form of sugar for this purpose is dextrose which you can buy like 2lb bags for next to nothing at a grocery store. Grape juice is the best fruit juice to aid in transport…some sugars don’t really help at all.
Egad! I just now realized it stars out pss. I mean I potty alot. Pee, not take a crp! Hahahaha, just goes to show how whacked out the censors are sometimes!
yeah by products of organic digestion usually ends up in water and carbon dioxide, which explains the frequency, not to mention the extra water you are taking in.
Also, your body is probably trying to cleanse the extra lactic acid caused by the creatine. Might contribute to having the urgency ?
“…during adsorbtion, you are pronounced medically dead, but don’t worry, you can breath through your skin, ears…”
going to the toilet 12 times a day is abnormal. If you are losing more body fluids than you are taking in (IF that is!!) then you could be imapiring your health, both your Kidneys and your lungs as in Chinese Medicine they govern and control water in the body. Drying out of the body can help develop Yin Deficiency disharmonies in organs.
Repulsive Monkey, I am drinking a s|-|it load more water now a day than I have in a week. So I am not drying my body, I am just drinking more water. I know creatine makes you thirsty, so I drink about a gallon of water a day. My brother use to take creatine and he could drink a gallon in less than 5 minutes, room temperature. I guess because of all the extra water I drink, my body is releasing the water it doesn’t need. Because after I drink about 2 cups of water, within 2 hours I am in the bathroom taking a wizz. So I am keeping myself hydrated.
the best health advice to given here Philbert, is quite simply cut out the Creatine. Massive amounts of water on a daily basis is potentially bad for your long term health. It can create internal dampness which can slow the bodies functions down and produce lethargy, odema, slower relfex actions, general tiredness etc. Why do you put your body through this regime???
Listen, when you first increase your fluid intake, your body will pee a lot of it out. After your body becomes used to it, it will stop. You will pee less frequently, but there will be a lot more pee per trip to the bathroom.
Your body holds water when there is a deficit of it. ie. If you stop drinking for a while, your body will hold on to what little water it has. I’ve come from a somewhate dehydrated state before and drank almost half a gallon and then not had to pee for 12 hours.
On the other hand, when there is a surplus of water coming into your body, your body won’t hold on to it because it thinks “hey, more’s on the way, so let’s get rid of this.” After a while, it gets accustomed to this new level of water (gallon+ per day) and stops thinking of it as a surplus, and therefore you will hold water more, gaining a few pounds, and at any one moment there will be more water in your body than before. But, like I said, when you go pee you will pee a lot because you’re holding more water.
Repulsive Monkey can you please provide more detail on your thoughts of long term damage caused by drinking large quantities of water? I’ve never heard anything like that before and can’t think of any way it could be true. Your body is 70% water and uses water to help flush out your internal systems.
I can see drowning as a short-term damaging effect of too much water ;), but please articulate what you have stated if possible. Thanks.
Repulsive Monkey, just on that note. Taking creatine is also “bad” because it increases the “breathing” rate which in tantrayana is considered bad, because it shortens life and also decreases mindfulness. But that is of course, if you believe…
But honestly, I wouldnt take supplements either, but that is just my own opinion
El Pietro, if I understand correctly, “I think” Repulsive Monkey also believes drinking water is good for you, he is merely saying that drinking less than passing water is a bad sign of sickness. I think he is just saying to cut down on Creatine, not to cut down on water intake And of course, too much of anything is not good for you.
“…during adsorbtion, you are pronounced medically dead, but don’t worry, you can breath through your skin, ears…”
I take ONE pill, just ONE before my workout. Not two. And none after. The product said “Take 6 pills a day, 3 before and 3 after.” I also read that you **** out the creatine your body doesn’t use (I.E., 5 pills you litereally flush down the toilet). So I don’t take alot of creatine. Honestly, I take, at most, and this is at most (as in I work out my “normal” training week) 6 creatine pills.
I also would take 12 phoso fuel pills. (I take 2 of those even though it reccommends 4). I don’t take exactly what it reccomends, because I can’t buy creatine every 10 days (6 times a day x 10=60 amount of pills per bottle.) But on average, now this is average, I take 4-5 creatine pills a week, and only 8-10 phoso fuel pills.
I put my body through this because I need to increase my muscle mass, and for some reason, my muscle mass does not increase normally. I have been working out for almost 6 years now. I have only increased the amount I can bench 50 pounds in 5 years. I would watch people around me who, at the age of 15, could bench more than I can now. I don’t bench anymore, because I heard it was bad for your elbows (plus I just hated it, I almost dislocated my shoulder benching my normal amount.) So I focus on push ups and other means of enhancing chest muscles.
I weigh 170 lb. I just graduated high school at the weight of 150 lb. I had weighed 150 lb. since I was in the 9th grade. Yes, I had not increased my weight (well, the average was 150) in 4 years. My body just rejects food (even healthy) and won’t let me put on weight. So I have to look into other means of enhancing my body weight and muscle mass.
My brother took creatine and all those other muscle enhancers, and as far as I can tell, he had no side effects. His arms are 3 times what they use to be. He could curl my body weight at the gym. He stopped taking creatine (because he followed the instructions they gave) and found it too expensive. Well, I don’t want to take 6 a day and have to buy a new bottle each week because I flush 5 pills a day down the toilet. So I just take 1 a day before my work out then drink a protein drink after my work out.
PHILBERT I would say if you haven’t grown in 5 years you’re not eating enough
No I’m serious. Read through some of my posts here I explain the necessity to eat like a horse while trying to gain muscle. 1g protein per pound of bodyweight.
But what are your goals? Increased strength? Or increased muscle mass?
I want to get stronger, while look stronger. I am not wanting some huge body, but just well toned, able to see my abs and all. And believe me, I eat like a horse. I use to eat like 4-5 times a day, pizza, ice cream, everything. I took in over 3000 calories a day. I just burned it off (I have an incredibly high metabolism. People envy me for it.) I hate it though, but hey, the junk food went straight through me, so I don’t have to sit there and work 10 times harder to loose weight around my belly from eating junk food for so long. So I guess there is an advantage there.
3000 calories a day isn’t that much. The “FDA recommended” is 2000 per day, or 2,500 if you’re active or whatever. That doesn’t include people trying to GAIN weight (most people are trying to lose weight… as evidenced by food marketing strategies). Try 4, 5, or 6000 a day, but slowly work up to it. Also if you’re trying to bulk, pretty much forget about cardio.
But dude I know what you mean. I have a fast metabolism, too. I used to eat 5 or 6,000 a day and I still couldn’t get above 173lbs at 8% bodyfat. My body won’t add fat knock on wood So, I’ve pretty much given up the bodybuilding thing because my body isn’t suited to handle it. And, there are some major reasons here:
When combined with my already fast metabolism, eating 5000+ calories a day made me hot as hell. I would literally sweat, non stop, regardless of the environment. Try wearing a t-shirt to class in the winter because your body is producing so much heat.
Eating more naturally makes your metabolism speed up, and with my already fast metabolism, it went crazy. If, for whatever reason, I had to miss a meal, at which time my body would be craving food, I would get immensely hungry, sometimes to the point of not being able to do anything because my body would be expecting food.
I can’t afford to eat as much as I needed to. I quickly ran out of money buying a large pizza every night for my second dinner.
You’ll notice that some people eat like shite, but grow like crazy. They suck. For ectomorphs, it’s hard to put on weight, but whatever we do get on is shredded because we have naturally low bodyfat. I guess it’s a compromise.
I got body fat alright. I can grab anywhere on my body just about (except certain points on my legs) and locate fat. But I got an advantage. I still live at home, so I can just make my mom buy me more food. hehe. College rules.
I do cardio to remove the fat off my belly and I’ve gained 20 pounds this previous summer. But I also take some weight gainers to get a little bit more. I gained 10 pounds in a week, mostly muscle.
for mirroring my intent here. Prana is correcting for standing up for what I intended (and sometimes I don’t it clear enough)thoughts on the matter. Water consumption is necessary of course, but too much will create in Chinese Medical terms what is known as internal damp. This will slow down the body and create all the symptoms of “Damp”. My (slow) understanding now is that this is all about muscle development, am I right? Well why do you desire these obvious and asthetic development? How will it enhance your present state in life in real terms? I mean if it was a replacement therapy due to Muscular Atrophy I could understand, but if its for asthetics then it would seem natural that to do something unnatural to the body will obviously present unnatural side effects.
I know this sounds all rather pompous but its just an opinion of course, as easy forgotten as easily it is said.
