Ernie!
It would be the perfect opportunity to show us how you actually “drop” people!..But I will respect your table choice.I will also respect any of our “fighters” if they produce a real fighting clip,but I doubt it will happen.The loudest they talk,you know!..
As for fighting,anybody can do it.The only thing not garranteed is winning.A martial art is a tool to be used if needed (But it can be a lot more!).I don’t treat fighting lightly and I don’t need to show off a big persona or ego character on the internet.
I’ll shut my mouth now.
http://www.chez.com/baseweb/chisao.htm
If you like to spar, this could happen to you…
I posted this link of my old french coaches two years ago in this forum. Consider this my first offering! =)
Originally posted by old jong
Ernie!
It would be the perfect opportunity to show us how you actually “drop” people!..But I will respect your table choice.I will also respect any of our “fighters” if they produce a real fighting clip,but I doubt it will happen.The loudest they talk,you know!..
As for fighting,anybody can do it.The only thing not garranteed is winning.A martial art is a tool to be used if needed (But it can be a lot more!).I don’t treat fighting lightly and I don’t need to show off a big persona or ego character on the internet.
I’ll shut my mouth now.
Droping people is no big deal any ounch or kick from any art or non art can do this , hell bumping your head into a wall could do it
being dropped is not a big deal either unless you have an ego , i still get dropped , locked , choked all the time
But jong i only care for training methods , funny i just got off the phone with Andrew S and like every conversation we have we share training methods and results , both for ourselves and the people we train
now mind you we are from different [ lineage :eek: ]
and have different idea’s on how to use wing chun , we have sparred each other pretty hard and both been better for it
he has shown me things i use and i hope to have done the same for him
this is all about sharing and being honest , not some back seat arm chair know it all but never experienced much wing chun zombie that just sounds like a sifu says parrot [ i’m being general ]
If , Andrew , Dhira , You were prepping for a fight i would do everything in my power to help in some way , no lineage lines
or if some one needed to research something i do or have learned , dude i’m down to help no strings attached
this is how my world works
the fighter non fighter wing chun police world is just a Reality TV show i watch
a game of words and self importance 
“Yeah!..The Wing Chun “police(s)” and armchair robots would really like to see what our tough forum fighters can do!..Let us see at last that savage fighting vs agressive and resisting opponents in a live and dynamic environment.No more forum noise.Time to show the world the stuff and how special a breed you are.” (OJ)
Oh yeah…I forgot to mention…
- Michel (Old Jong)
Even if Number 13 is an unlucky number…
I still want to see what one of the most vocal members of the wing chun police can do!
Who knows…maybe I’ll join the force.
Yeah…right! LOL.
I know that there have been some bad rep between our Tom and Jerry Camps, but I did see quite a few times on Ernie’s private clips how he can drop people quite impressively! This thread is interesting and I look forward to see other people’s stuffs! =D
Originally posted by PaulH
I know that there have been some bad rep between our Tom and Jerry Camps, but I did see quite a few times on Ernie’s private clips how he can drop people quite impressively! This thread is interesting and I look forward to see other people’s stuffs! =D
Hey Paul thanks for the kind words, but this really is not about me, I don’t consider myself all billybada$$ or the keeper of the holy wing Chun grail
I just love to train and investigate
It really trips me out how finite some people get like what are they so worried about
Don’t see what the big deal is
I respect if you want to keep your stuff to yourself not everybody can look good on film, and wing chun is such a compact art and quick something sometimes felt more then seen
Even when I put my stuff out it’s more for the fun and excitement, my personal expression, how I use my training not how my training uses me
But if I were to demo something specific from the training system then I would have to be correct in my motion for that particular idea
If I’m just playing then that is what is represented
And if I am fighting then that will have a different look
As long as people can separate the different expressions
Personal use
Demo
Playing
Fighting
Then it can be fun
Problem happens when people have a limited filter and try and use one view to represent all things
I agree. I think the thread is more of a taste of the others. Hopefully, the clips will be fun, playful, and interesting. =)
Originally posted by Ultimatewingchun
[B]“Yeah!..The Wing Chun “police(s)” and armchair robots would really like to see what our tough forum fighters can do!..Let us see at last that savage fighting vs agressive and resisting opponents in a live and dynamic environment.No more forum noise.Time to show the world the stuff and how special a breed you are.” (OJ)
Oh yeah…I forgot to mention…
- Michel (Old Jong)
Even if Number 13 is an unlucky number…
I still want to see what one of the most vocal members of the wing chun police can do!
Who knows…maybe I’ll join the force.
Yeah…right! LOL. [/B]
LOL! Why should I do something like that?..I’m not among those talking the big tough guy talk around here!..I’m not among those with something to prove around here!..Don’t you think?..
BTW,I have my own reasons to be “vocal”. As one of the most “vocal” of the tough talk category you must understand that this is not your personal forum…I hope!
And because I recognize that it’s not my own personal forum - I’m inviting you to participate in the video montage.
Come on now…don’t be shy!
Ok!
Is this everyone? Where are the rest of the KFO keyboard warriors? Tisk Tisk!
Newbies willing to participate:
Me, David W., Victor, Marty, Kieth
Others willing to send in more footage:
Ernie, James
Is everyone going to send in footage to that site in the UK for Jan 1, 2005?
Is that agreed upon?
Regards,
Re: Video Footage
Originally posted by Jim Roselando
Someone from Leung Ting’s group. Knifefighter
Umm… I’m not from this group.
Originally posted by old jong
The “good wing chun camp” is not the one who started all this noise!..
Actually, the “good WC camp” were the ones who started the noise by yelling around about how the people in the kong sao video had crappy WC.
You were one of the most vocal.
Originally posted by Ernie
[B] i have free sparring and timing light sparring stuff on video , if you really want to see me move , but the wing chun police will go nuts
…but again all the arm chair robots will flip there cpu’s [/B]
Of course they will.
That’s because you will actually be going hard.
Of course you won’t see any of them posting any fighting clips.
My list (no forms or demos- hard sparring or fight footage only):
Sihing
Yong Chun
Matrix
Old Jong
Vajramusti
UltWC
Ali Hamad Rahim (both WC and BJJ footage)
Hendrik
Curtis
AZVingTsun
Originally posted by Knifefighter
[B]Actually, the “good WC camp” were the ones who started the noise by yelling around about how the people in the kong sao video had crappy WC.
You were one of the most vocal. [/B]
Hey! this argument was on a long time before these crappy clips were posted. In fact it was on before you started trolling here.
Originally posted by old jong
We…(the wing chun “police(s)”) and robotoids out there are ready to be amazed but we all have seen a lot of boxing,grappling and kickboxing already so try to surprise us a little bit!..
Sorry, OJ, that’s about what your going to see when you see real fighting.
Originally posted by Ultimatewingchun
[B]And because I recognize that it’s not my own personal forum - I’m inviting you to participate in the video montage.
Come on now…don’t be shy! [/B]
You should try to find another argument twist.I never played internet warrior and I’m not about to begin.
Originally posted by Knifefighter
Sorry, OJ, that’s about what your going to see when you see real fighting.
You may not know KF but there is a “inside wing chun” layer of discussion going on between two wing chun philosophies on this forum.You mostly intrude in discussions like a fly in the soup.I may sometimes not agree with some of my wing chun fellows ideas on training or something but I respect them for being at their place witch is hard to say about yourself.
KwoonBlanca - A Shameless Revised Version
(Yim Wing Chun) pretends to examine the goods on the counter.
(The Non Wingchunist)
Why did you come back? To tell me
why you ran out on me at the railway
station?
(WC)
Yes.
(NWC)
Well, you can tell me now. I'm
reasonably sober.
(WC)
I don't think I will, Rick.
NWC
Why not? After all, I got stuck with
a railway ticket. I think I'm entitled
to know.
WC
Last night I saw what has happened
to you. The Rick I knew in Paris, I
could tell him. He'd understand. But
the one who looked at me with such
hatred... well, I'll be leaving
(Kwoonblanca) soon and we'll never see
each other again. We knew very little
about each other when we were in
love in Paris. If we leave it that
way, maybe we'll remember those days
and not (Kwoonblanca), not last night.
NWC
Did you run out on me because you
couldn't take it? Because you knew
what it would be like, hiding from
the police, running away all the
time?
WC
You can believe that if you want to.
NWC
Well, I'm not running away any more.
I'm settled now, above a (gym),
it's true, but... walk up a flight.
I'll be expecting you.
YWC turns her head away.
NWC
All the same, someday you'll lie to
(Sifu). You'll be there.
YWC
No, Rick. No, you see, (Wing Chun)
is ... and was, even when
I knew you in Paris.
She walks away into the cafe as Rick stares after her in
stunned disbelief.
OK OK! here’s a video!
It is really brutal
Thanks FngSaiYuk!