Turning on the heals or on the toes?

Discuss.

All i wanted was some RICE CAKES! Now? WE MUST BATTLE.

I use my whole foot…

If anything different I would not go to toes…

IXIJoe KaveyIXI
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turn heels…

if you turn on your toes, you move your center…

you turn on the entire foot technically, however the weight is absorbed by the heel, however the middle of the foot is still the center

“if you turn on your toes, you move your center”

thats a good point man, never thought of that, played

All i wanted was some RICE CAKES! Now? WE MUST BATTLE.

The whole foot.

You use the whole surface of the foot.
If you turn on your “heels” only, you have no ground connection and will be pushed easily.

What about when you’re wearing sneakers on a rough but solid surface, such as carpeting, sidewalks, etc?

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That doesnt matter…he is not talking about sliding easier he means you will be pushed over easier…

IXIJoe KaveyIXI
I am Sharky’s main man…

Stand on your heals and then stand on your whole foot…

IXIJoe KaveyIXI
I am Sharky’s main man…

to rogue:

What you want to practice is the structure that gives you the most advantage. Using your entire foot to turn (middle of your foot is pivot point) maintains a good stable stance. Naturally, on a surface that inhibits the motion of your feet, you may need to modify your advancing step and stance turn, but only minimally so that not too much structure is sacrificed. For example, people who have fairly even weight distribution in their sideling stance may need to adjust the distribution so that the back leg supports more weight. This allows the forward foot (foot in the direction of your stance turn) to pivot quite easily, no matter what kind of surface. Personally, I’d try to always step the same way, even if that means wearing down my show faster :slight_smile:

In some our our street defence training, we practice every-day looking stances that closely resemble the IRAS stance and the advancing (fighting stance). 2 reasons for this: you are in a stance that is fairly familiar to you and you can initiate a wing chun attack from these stances easily; the other reason is so that your opponent won’t suspect you know any martial arts and is more likely to assume you to be of no harm.

I use all 3 ways of pivoting: toes, heels, middle.

It depends on what I’d like to accomplish.

Does it matter!!!

Turning with your heels, toes , middle, big toe, little toe. Is it not a ‘by-product’ of your rooting? Do you twist in Chum Kiu from the center or the feet?

yes it does matter.

at my old wing chun school i was turning on my toes, but now at my new school i’m being told to turn on my heels, and am having a ***** of a time emptying my cup, ok?

All i wanted was some RICE CAKES! Now? WE MUST BATTLE.

Cloud One

It CERTAINLY matters.
Reread the second line of my previous post. It’s only 2 sentences long…

I think it matters

When you go into the stance used in SLT you pivot on the heels first then the toes. That’s the only time you solely pivot on those points. When pivoting the entire body, I turn on the sole of the foot. This is difficult at first, but it must be practiced. However, the center of the body initiates the turning. Whole body unity.

Marty

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“When you go into the stance used in SLT you pivot on the heels first then the toes”

Not true. That is how it appears…

In my wing chun school I was taught to only shift on my heels which I’m finally starting to do.
To me shifting on my heels has been especially difficult since I came from karate (Kyokushin, gojuryu, and shotokan) and we always shift on the toes.

Heel or toe

I also agree, I use the whole foot, even when I open SLT. I think the only time you really might change this is if you were on a sharp incline or for some other reason due to terrain. But for the most part I always shift with the whole foot. :wink:

mostly heels for me…but with shoes on it’s slightly different…

btw, it’s spelled H-E-E-L-S for chrissakes…

lol, an uncharacteristic typo, so sue me

All i wanted was some RICE CAKES! Now? WE MUST BATTLE.

haha

well, when I turn on the ‘heals’ EVERYONE feels better!! hahahhaahaa..

sorry i couldn’t resist…

to answer the post, i was taught to always turn from the heels, waist, to move the whole body. Which was tricky for me at first, coming from a psuedo-wrestle-boxing style i was used to using. That plus all the basketball i play, CONSTANTLY on your toes there…but i’ve gotten ALOT better with practice… :wink:


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