[QUOTE=Dale Dugas;1046529]MP,
You called me and my teacher into question.
I invited you to come meet him and myself and see FIRSTHAND that you are wrong and can be proven wrong.
That you continue to insult the both of us shows everyone here your true agenda. Hate mongering against people who actually can represent.[/QUOTE]
Hate mongering? This is what I hate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSnUDkCQ0WU
I hate when people like this are able to dupe so many people into thinking they are skilled. Maybe people want to be duped and the pressure should be put on them.
I hate when people speak highly of the above push hands training and then bash the sparring shown below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAxfXCl_tfQ
All I am saying is that the seminar in question will have more of the former training.
[QUOTE=EarthDragon;1046532]mysterious power and knifefighter talk more ****e about other peoples skill because they have none of thier own. isnt KF the short fat guy named Dale?
I can guarente you they will NOT go to the seminar, no chance in h*ll. but they WILL make up excuses why they cant go, we have heard this lame crap for years. and you 2 will not surely will not be the excetiption to the rule.
They would much rather simply sit on the computer from the safey of thier own homes and put others down. its much easier for people of thier station in life to feel good about themselves.
kinda funny mysertious power’s screen name is debunking mysterious power and the other guy needs a knife to win a fight. LOl just sayin[/QUOTE]
I know you. You are the dude who claimed that you trained a guy who WON ufc 6 and 7. I read your original post on the subject and you did make these claims. The second they were brought into question and debunked you backpedaled like a politician caught in a lie. You have no credibility here. Knifefighter and Frost were right about your original post. You exaggerated your claims.
don’t be such a little vagina about it then. Take the invite, go and proove them all wrong.
simple as pie.
Mystery-I especially like the way you volunteer ME to go to the seminar, rather than yourself, who is doing all the sh*t talking. Nice attempt, but honestly you give yourself way too much credit. (I’m wondering if you might actually be my ex under a pseudonym..?)
You also seem to think that people here take you seriously. I honestly can’t imagine how you can come to that conclusion.
Newsflash, brilliance. Nobody, except maybe KF thinks you have anything of value here, except that you are mildly entertaining.
Ok, so poor little you had a bad experience at a previous school, and now you’re bitter.
So you are on your little personal crusade to enlighten all TCMA folks to your way of thinking.
When people dissagree with you, you turn to stamping your little feet and name calling, misquoting, and trying to turn it around with “I know you are, but what am I?” type of rhetoric. (Man, you really are like her, you two should meet)
Dude, let it go. Move on with your life.
I do agree with a few things that you say however.
I am also against that feel good, everybody wins at T-Ball mentality, Confidense without competence crap.
(I also don’t think they should have plus sized models on the runway modeling lingerie.)
I am against gun control. Why? Because I hunt and shoot, and I also understand that outlawing guns only disarms citizens.
I hope you are pro-choice as well.
(you really shouldn’t breed…)
seriously guys, just put these retards like MP,HW108,KF,Hendrik, kansuck, and the lot of throwbacks, *******s and d-bags on ignore.
they WILL go away.
If you keep engaging these POS trolls, they will keep coming here spewing their bile.
eff em, they are nothing.
pull them like weeds via the ignore switch and life will be good. 
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1046547]seriously guys, just put these retards like MP,HW108,KF,Hendrik, kansuck, and the lot of throwbacks, *******s and d-bags on ignore.
they WILL go away.
If you keep engaging these POS trolls, they will keep coming here spewing their bile.
eff em, they are nothing.
pull them like weeds via the ignore switch and life will be good. :)[/QUOTE]
It’s funny, Hendrick, HW108, and even Mystery make some good contributions.(check out his post comparing the “push hands” to the geared sparring clips)
It’s only when they start going off on their **** that they go off the deep end.
Here’s an idea-let me be moderator. I will read their posts and just start hittinng the delete button when they start deviating and dribbling their nonesense.
TenTigers-Moderator Extraodinaire, Master of the Delete Key!
[QUOTE=MysteriousPower;1046534]Hate mongering? This is what I hate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSnUDkCQ0WU
I hate when people like this are able to dupe so many people into thinking they are skilled. Maybe people want to be duped and the pressure should be put on them.
I hate when people speak highly of the above push hands training and then bash the sparring shown below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAxfXCl_tfQ
[/QUOTE]
See? problem solved!
courtesy of TT-Moderator Extraodinaire
[QUOTE=TenTigers;1046542]Mystery-I especially like the way you volunteer ME to go to the seminar, rather than yourself, who is doing all the sh*t talking. Nice attempt, but honestly you give yourself way too much credit. (I’m wondering if you might actually be my ex under a pseudonym..?)
You also seem to think that people here take you seriously. I honestly can’t imagine how you can come to that conclusion.
Newsflash, brilliance. Nobody, except maybe KF thinks you have anything of value here, except that you are mildly entertaining.
Ok, so poor little you had a bad experience at a previous school, and now you’re bitter.
So you are on your little personal crusade to enlighten all TCMA folks to your way of thinking.
When people dissagree with you, you turn to stamping your little feet and name calling, misquoting, and trying to turn it around with “I know you are, but what am I?” type of rhetoric. (Man, you really are like her, you two should meet)
Dude, let it go. Move on with your life.
I do agree with a few things that you say however.
I am also against that feel good, everybody wins at T-Ball mentality, Confidense without competence crap.
(I also don’t think they should have plus sized models on the runway modeling lingerie.)
I am against gun control. Why? Because I hunt and shoot, and I also understand that outlawing guns only disarms citizens.
I hope you are pro-choice as well.
(you really shouldn’t breed…)[/QUOTE]
Knifefighter’s comments are worth more than David Jameson’s, earthdragon’s, Dale dugas’s, and yours combined.
very few of challenges like this ever materialize into something so anyones wasting their time hoping it will happen
“Legends tell of an amazing martial ability that allowed an internal
martial art master to control the movements of his enemy with the
lightest of touch and in come cases without touching him at all. These
legends that seem like magic are in fact true. The secret however is not
magic, but a subtle manipulation of an individual’s nervous system by
the master.”
Anyone who actually believes this crap deserves to lose their money from the fraudulent hucksters. You guys are right. It’s not our business to save the gullible people from getting ripped off.
Carry on…
[QUOTE=MysteriousPower;1046555]In my opinion, Knifefighter’s comments are worth more than David Jameson’s, earthdragon’s, Dale dugas’s, and yours combined.[/QUOTE]
Ta-Daaaaa!!! Fixed once again, By TT -Moderator Extraordinaire!
No need to thank me, Ma’am. Just doing my job.
[QUOTE=TenTigers;1046560]Ta-Daaaaa!!! Fixed once again, By TT -Moderator Extraordinaire!
No need to thank me, Ma’am. Just doing my job.[/QUOTE]
that’s nambla for you. once they’re in, they’re in for life.
poor kids. 
Mr Jamieson,
Your English is not quite correct.
It should be: Once they’re in, they’re out for life.
mickey
This conversation is deteriorating rapidly…
this no touch qi control does sound fishy. whats the deal man
Lets make one thing clear, MP did nothing wrong in questioning what he read, far from that, it is the duty of every MA to question what sounds “fishy”.
There is nothing wrong with that.
There was nothing wrong in questioning, just as there is nothing wrong in questioning the validity and effectiveness of chi sao, qigong, Qi in general, forms, the “too deadly” , etc, etc.
BUT if you are gonna question something and have no ulterior motives other than truth seeking, then when someone offers you a way to find out for yourself, why not take it up?
I used to question IP, I took it up.
I used to question qigong like the iron wire, I took it up.
I used to question the validity of ground work, I took it up.
Finding the answers to our questions is rather EASY, all we have to do is DO IT.
isnt this the guy that got caught a few years ago with doctured pictures on his site of him with his claimed master? something about the head not fitting the body and him managing not to caste any shadow in the photo?
if so these guys arent the first to call him into question
sanjuro ronin,
It is the not duty of a MA to question, it is the MA"s duty to investigate. I can tell your thread really means that and that you did that. It is pretty obvious that you cannot investigate someone’s ability through the internet. You have to engage, touch, and experience. This is tradition. And, thankfully, it happens in this country.
mickey
i did some investigating. i went to see chicago shaolin temple perform at chinatown. it was pure dogsh1t. am i good martial artist now