Now that Beijing is confirmed for the Olympics & the likelyhood of Wushu getting into the Olympics is pretty much set (recent Chinese newspapers have stated it as confirmed), how many out there will consider the change or foresee wushu becoming a part of their school ciriculum? Just curious.
Wushu in Olympics,
Like it or not, it will help the (sport / M-art).
http://www.usawushu.com/resources/index.html
It doesn’t matter what gets you there, so long as you train hard. Eventually, as wushu rises, more and more people will hopefully be interested in other more tradiional arts.
what ever gets there man,
“O”
I’d rather watch Wushu than Sport Karate.
It’s still not 100% in…
Hopefully they’ll come up with better set up for events than the crap that was proposed before. Personally, I’d like to see them do away with international compulsory routines. Or at least regulate them to only being used for qualification for the team.
that website annoucement may have been a bit presumptuous
The terms of its addition aren’t clear. Don’t trust any information that you hear from the CMA community because we’re all spinning in circles. Remember when we were all saying san shou was going to go in. And look was pankration has been saying about being in Athen’s but they haven’t even applied for official status.
Nothing is certain until the IOC says, and even that is subject to change.
It’s a sub sport like syncronized swimming and should not be included. While their at it maybe they could weed out some of the other sub sports. Then getting out of bed with bankofamerica would be in order. Maybe if wushu is completely rejected the pathetic cheats at usakwf would get a life.
This is an interesting question.
Do you think TKD contributed greatly to the martial arts. Many say TKD and it’s McDojo tendency epitomise what is wrong with martial arts. But many people who cuss TKD often started their martial arts in TKD.
As of Wushu in Olympic, no, I don’t think it’s a good idea. As far as “Olympic” Wushu goes, it’s just gymnastic adopted to martial arts. Open Pushing Hand competition is much more productive for the martial arts in the long run, IMO.
Maybe if wushu is completely rejected the pathetic cheats at usakwf would get a life.
If wushu were accepted into the Olympics, it’s my understanding that the USAWKF would have to change a lot of things about their organization in order to become recognized by the USOC. As they’re set up right now, they wouldn’t be elligable to send a team to the Olympics.
Sport Wushu is here to stay, like it or not, and for the most part one of the better organized martial arts out there. It is however not the be all & end all of Chinese martial arts, just one aspect of it. Folk out there should just come to accept that it is just the ‘performance sport aspect’ of Chinese martial arts. Few Asian martial arts have the diversity that we have & I think this is one of the things that will carry CMA forward. Finally if Sport Wushu makes it into the Olympics it will bring greater exposure to Chinese martial arts, maybe not the exposure that some traditionalists would like nonetheless exposure.
My two cents:D
No wushu at the olympics
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2005\10\17\story_17-10-2005_pg2_17
what a surprise! … NOT! :rolleyes:
That is too bad.
Not at all surprising…
No big support structure…
All rules and judging aspects are controlled by a single country
That single country - with the exception of the Sanshou arena - would dominate ALL medals in the event…either by skill or a deft change of rules…
Given the ethics problems the IOC has had in recent times, they would reject Wushu as a sport based on the ethical issues alone…like they NEED another headache.
But there are simple logistical and appeal issues as well.
Like NO ONE could see this one coming a year ago…
I am aghast…:):eek:
That really sucks!
Am I the only one who’s dissapointed in hearing this?
All politics aside, it would be cool to see Wushu grow into an international sport that’s endorsed by the Olympics.
This is really dissapointing.
On one hand I would have liked to see some form of Chinese Martial Arts in the Olympics…and Wushu (Taolu AND Sanshou) seemed to be the best fit.
On the other, having worked with the organizations and having witnessed the things that go on in the US, Canada, Mexico, various South American countries, South Africa, and the PRC in regards to judge training, recognition, money, events, etc… I am NOT disappointed.
To move forward with such a flawed and inherently biased and unfair setup would only end up being a big scandal. The IWuF should really focus on getting their act together and getting out of the mindset they have always had and build an organization and sport that everyone can view with pride.
They also need to focus on building an infrastructure for competitors. How can they hope to compete with things like gymnastics as an event when there are no real athlete development orgs focusing on getting young kids involved and keeping them involved.
The contradiction is that the PRC wants to hold all of the cards for control of the IWuF. Fine and dandy…but what comes with THAT territory is that they also have to offer to pay some bills, supply help in building and promoting an infrastructure in countries, and in short working to develop Wushu throughout the world in words, deeds, AND Money
Good news. CMA may survive a little bit longer.
So true YKW…
Bad news about CMA surviving a little longer is it’s in YKW’s one dimensional bonehead perspective. :eek:
“Good news. CMA may survive a little bit longer.”
You have got to be kidding. That is a blow to kungfu training. Just because it is different then what you do doesn’t make it any less valid. When a good kungfu movie comes out is it a blow to kungfu because the actors do wushu? Enrollemnt went up big time at my old school after crouching tiger came out. I don’t see anything wrong with that.
“Bad news about CMA surviving a little longer is it’s in YKW’s one dimensional bonehead perspective.”
lol Agreed.
It’s funny how I don’t hear complaints about how the Kodokan controls everything in Judo circles… Although I do hear nothing but complaints and animosity in TKD circles between the ITF and the WTF.
Of course there were going to be many problems with the first appearance of Wushu in the Olympics, but you have to start somewhere.
I don’t agreed that Kung Fu will survive a little longer in fact it’s pretty much hanging by a thread. But I and with YouKnowWho all the way on this one.
Please check this thread started by me on the Mantis broad:
http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39042
Modern Wushu is pure mockery of tradition period. It’s like the Manchurians court wanted uniforms so some smart Han tribe official gave them those robes that’s symbolic of animal (peac0c k plume hat, hoof cuffs, etc). So the Han tribe can always make fun of those “Royals” (pun intended with the selected few who did Wushu in the beginning). The smart TCMA masters that were given the task of designing Wushu and presented it to the Communist did the same trick. But ignorance is bliss I suppose but it doesn’t turn what is wrong into right.
The line between Wushu and Kung Fu has to be drawn firmly. That’s the only way to preserve real skills.
Mantis108