Can anyone tell me who teaches SPM in New York City?
(I don’t want critiques or arguments over whose better)
I would prefer only contact information.
Thanks guys 
Some Advice
No matter who you pick, if they don’t “play hands” with the students,
all you are learning is how to dance.
The art SPM is transmitted “hand to hand”.
All the forms in the world mean very little if that all you get,
but then that all most people are satisfied with as they think
the skill is found in the forms alone.
Caveat Emptor!ü
Play hands?
No no no no, we don’t ‘play hands’ in Southern Praying Mantis.
We fight with our hands.
I believe Norman Chin teaches Jook Lum mantis in Chinatown.
Unfortunately, I do not know the address, location, or phone number of the school. I hope this helps. Peace.
Juggy
The term “playing hands” is in reference to teaching and practicing.
Not actual combat.
Who is your teacher?
Does he “touch hands” with his students?
Or does he have them practice outside hitting range,
or just let them hack like butchers at each other?
The ONLY way you get the “feeling” and “sensitivity” of SPM
is by DIRECT CONTACT with someone better than you, someone
who can guide your skill upwards, wether that is a senior or a Sifu,
SOMEONE has to “put the art in your hands”.
The Greatest
Chin Sifu is the greatest Southern Lion Dance teacher in NYC!
You may find him at the Chinatown YMCA 100 Hester Street.
Sorry, Fukien, I thought you were insulting SPM.
No offence intended.
Fukien
What do you like so much about that guy’s lion dancing?
juggler
You have never heard of the term “play hands”?
Does your teacher let you “feel his hands” in 2 man drills,
or do you just do forms?
David
To his credit, he is the only one in Chinatown who
teaches Liondancing for free on Saturday mornings.
You WILL however have to listen to his “sales pitch”
about joining his school as a paying student.
Caveat Emptor
Playing hands
To the reference to "No no no no, we don’t ‘play hands’ in Southern Praying Mantis.
We fight with our hands." well said but rather our hands fight by themselves.
I don’t hit, it hits all by itself…bruce lee
fukien (or anyone)
Is that the only person that teaches that system in NYC?
SPM in NYC
He is the only one with an “open school”, that is, anyone with cash can join.
Cash for monthy fee’s (three months upfront), and if you manage to hang around
for a year, you get the privelege of paying several hundred dollars to become a
“disciple”. He does not accept checks or CC’s. You must first learn several modified
Hung Gar and Choy Lee Fut forms before he shows you whatever Mantis he chooses
to share with you.
Everyone else is “Closed Door”, that is you cannot just walk in, pay and join.
Caveat Emptor..
closed doors
How does one go about contacting the closed door teachers?
What does one have to do or prove to be accepted into their classes?
Closed Doors
“You don’t find SPM…it finds you” is an old saying.
There are Masters in Chinatown who won’t teach for ANY amount of money
as the art in thier hands is priceless. They dole it out at thier whim to those they
deem worthy. The more you want to learn SPM, the more desperate you become
(or seem to be) closes the doors even tighter. A true teacher can only instruct a
handful of students (usually 5) at a time because of the “hand time” needed
with each student.
Those who have public schools do not “touch hands” with thier students,
except to collect monthly dues and “gate fees”"
fukien
fukien, doesnt it sound strange that u have to learn some hung gar forms and choy li fut before learning SPM and then only teaches u wut he wants to afterwards? I know why it sounds strange…CAUSE NORMIN CHIN IZ PULLING YOR CHAIN FUKEIN! I’m sure u got the whole speech about, “U have to prepare yorself internally before u can learn the 3-step arrow form.” hahaha. And to become a “real disciple,” it costs thousands! not hundreds. I dont study SPM formally, and I bet I know more than u do. hahaha!
Never!
I have (fortunetly) never been a student of Norman Chin.
His reputation is well known.
Go see his class, and ask yourself why there are so few Chinese in his class! ;-)ü
normin CHin
HIs reputatoin iz well known…but how well do u konw it? I met Normin Chin once and Milton Chin. I would much rather like to see Milton CHin in action, personally.
stick to the topic
I study from time to time with Mr. Norman Chin and I find him to be a very nice guy. I know he has good reasons to stick to the format he has chosen.
Please just stick to the topic. If they all degrade :rolleyes: like this one, the administrators will never let us discuss this wonderful art. (Let’s be civil)
Hiram from “time to time”
Hiram, you train “from time to time”?
You train for …Restaurant shows? Cultural Events? Lame Tournaments thown by Norman’s buddies?
Lots of forms to learn…Hung Gar, Choi Li Fut, …etc. But how much can you USE? Where’s the MANTIS?
Has Norman taught you the breakdowns and practical applications of the forms?
How about proper Jook Lum breathing and stretching techniques?
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