Southern fist is indeed the best
CPS,
which is why it is kept in secrecy so that they don’t get mistaken for good fighters and get bashed up on the streets.
which is why it was not used in the military.
which is why lion dance was introduced to attract students.
which is why it was practiced by peasants and not military people.
which is why gimmicky tricks were developed to “show of their skill”
which is why the concept behind techniques don’t make sense.
which is why you can say that southern fist is the best. Oh BTW northern legs are the best. There has never been a complete Chinese born in history. The upper torso comes from the south and the lower torso the north.
Maximus Materialize!
A Rolls by any other name.
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[This message was edited by RENEGADE_MONK on 05-11-01 at 10:02 AM.]
Ego …
Southern STYLES were used in the Chinese army.
Southern STYLES are not kept secret. (Only some frauds who’s southern gungfu is bad do that with nice stories)
Both Southern and Northern styles have lion dance.
Gimmicky tricks. HAve you ever seen Southern Styles or are you confusing Southern Styles and modern wushu?
Southern STYLES do work. Maybe you have just seen/met the wrong people?
Every styles has its advantages and disadvantages.
Doesn’t a ? mean anything? So did I claim anything? Things aren’t what they look like (see the link)
**** I’m not a master, but a bean curd martial artist ****
(quote of Wong Fei Hung)
Hi-
CPS, chill, he’s just baiting you hoping for a lively response.
He has nothing better to do than aggrevate you or anyone else who will answer his drivel with a retort.
peace
Kung Lek
Bean Curd Master
CPS: “Southern STYLES were used in the Chinese army.”
Ego: “Occasionally the northern armies need cannon fodder or that the peasant population has gotten too big. that is the only way sourthern knugfu found itseld in the army. But we all know that those southerners can’t fight and should not be considered as military people”
CPS: “Southern STYLES are not kept secret. (Only some frauds who’s southern gungfu is bad do that with nice stories)”
Ego:" From your defination, Pak Mei, Southern Mantis, Pak Hok Pai and many others are frauds - as it is in their schools to keep things secret."
CPS: “Both Southern and Northern styles have lion dance.”
Ego:" Northern Schools which have had undue influence from the South may have lion dance. But these ( eg. Ching Mo association) are well known for their Chinese culture and heritage rather than fighting abilities."
CPS: “Gimmicky tricks. HAve you ever seen Southern Styles or are you confusing Southern Styles and modern wushu?”
Ego:" Yes I have seen many southern styles. I am an instructor in Southern Praying mantis and I know it is crap"
CPS: “Southern STYLES do work. Maybe you have just seen/met the wrong people?”
Ego: “Sure they work but not as well as northern styles”
CPS:“Every styles has its advantages and disadvantages.”
Ego:“Agreed. Southern styles are not as well tested in combat”.
CPS:" Doesn’t a ? mean anything? So did I claim anything? Things aren’t what they look like (see the link)"
Ego:“I think you’re getting all confused. Are you high on drugs?”
Maximus Materialize!
WHY YOU GAY **** GRANDMA’S MA FOOLSHINESS !!
Ego:“I think you’re getting all confused. Are you high on drugs?”
CPS:“No, only some stupid foreign tourist come to the Netherlands/Amsterdam for soft drugs - persons like you”.
Ego:" Yes I have seen many southern styles. I am an instructor in Southern Praying mantis and I know it is crap"
CPS:“That you’re lowsy in kungfu doesn’t mean Southern styles are bad.”
Ego:" From your defination, Pak Mei, Southern Mantis, Pak Hok Pai and many others are frauds - as it is in their schools to keep things secret."
CPS:"Don’t agree. In Hong Kong people are very happy to teach you styles like that.
Maybe the people just didn’t want to show you, because you’re an idiot.
And that is a claim. 
name
hi cps,
now everyone knows my name haha,
take care
Hong Kong Kung Fu
CPS:“No, only some stupid foreign tourist come to the Netherlands/Amsterdam for soft drugs - persons
like you”.
Ego:“It is a documented fact that Netherlands / Amsterdam liberal drug laws has resulted in a high proportion of drug use by the local population.”
CPS:“That you’re lowsy in kungfu doesn’t mean Southern styles are bad.”
Ego:“It doesn’t mean that Southern Kung Fu is good either. What I’ve said still holds true.”
CPS:"Don’t agree. In Hong Kong people are very happy to teach you styles like that. Maybe the people just didn’t want to show you, because you’re an idiot.
Ego:" Hong Kong Kung fu is geared for the movie industry. You can learn snake than eagle and finally snake vs eagle etc. Southern Kung fu is all a shonky high wire act."
Maximus Materialize!
Southern Fist!
Well I would say that southern styles are the best but I’m biased, I study a southern art.
Southern us great, direct and to the point. Northern is good but takes too long to make good fighters. Southern fighters are viscous, ferocious and don’t waste time doing fancy moves.
Ego-
shouldn’t you be arguing with Rolls showing him that kung fu does work?I mean if your going to TROLL then do it for a good cause.
Remember, use your trolling powers for good and not for evil.Go ahead show Rolls what kung fu is made of. 
“Always be ready”
[This message was edited by NorthernMantis on 05-13-01 at 11:17 AM.]
Kung Lek
How come you haven’t banned Ego? You were happy to lock up threads and kick others off, why do you let a troll like Ego continue on the board?
You have no chance to survive - make your time.
ego
who the hell told you southern style was not used on in the millitary wong fei hung trained the army, so did the founder of jow gar, so did many wing chun masters, where do you get your info you sound like a person who talks but can’t fight, southern style is the best for short range fighting, i live in new york city and get into alot of scraps where i live at, and it’s always more then one they always have some kind of weapon (one guy even fought me with a fan!) my friend he studies under monk shi yan ming, and yes the kung fu is real no wushu or anything like that and he’s been with him for 4 years and he’s won all san shou tournaments and all that good stuff but when we were in the bronx visiting some friend like we do every day, he decided he wanted to cash his check it was 10:00pm and the only place that was open was a check cashing place in the housing projects in soudview, well when we crossed the bridge i noticed some kids were following us, but at first i thought i was being parraniod and kept walking. After we got out of the check place i seen them again but when saw them the first time there was 8 guys this time there was for i told my friend to get ready we might have to fight(note:if anyone from the bronx reads this you know that there is only three ways to get across the soundview bridge and we were on the elder av bridge whitch means that was our only way over) he started sweating and walking quikly i told him there was no point in trying to run there might be four other guys waiting at the bridge so dead the issue of running then i started to look around for a weapon but it was friday and all the trash was off the street(or so i thought)as we got to the bridge i was surprrised to see know one on the bridge then all of a sudden four guys come running across the bridge the other four guys were right in back of us four guys quikly sorrounded me and four him, won guys was screaming “you trying to play me you tryign to play me” (i don’t what he was talking about) i told him to be easy. then he said “turn around” and i of course said know (oh and this was the guy wit the fan) i look to my left and my friend the fighter the northern style guy was shaking like a leaf thats when WAM!!! i was cracked on my shoulder by the fan then he tryed to crack me again but my forearm blocked it the guy (who was short about 5’6 5’7 and built like a house ) looked surprised that i took the hit on my forearm and had bo injury ( da samm sing and da lok sing ETC. also kiu sao training builds your forearms to resist pain) then using a whipping motion i learned from tai chi i took the fan and using it like a staff cracked the guy and one of his people walked up to the other guys (who buy now were beating the crap out of my friend) cracked one of them graped my friend and we started to walk fast across the bridge (my friend said his leg hurt or else we would have ran like the wind) then the guys started throwing bottles and we had now choice but to run as fast as we can witch wasent really fats like i said my friend hurt his leg.(god must have been with us that night cause not one bottle touched us but they almost did…thank you god…)
as we got across the brigde a friend of my hurt friend (who was a drug dealer and a rael friend) ran after the guys with a gun when he saw them after use the guys turned into track stars when they seen the gun and ran into the pj’s. after my friend had to go to the hospital his hurt leg turned into a twisted ankle and fractured shin, also a torn muscle, like i said he trained every day for 2 hour for four years and had all of these bull crap injuries and the guys couldnt have beat him hard enouth it was only a few secounds. i mean he’s a shaolin guy and i’m positive they some kind of conditioning. after his leg healed and he got the okay to train he left shi yan ming’s school and is now looking for a good southern schools, even i now train in the internal arts (xing yi and bagua) for the last year and a have it was my southern style traing that got me out of there. so ego do some research cause even thou all style are equal northern style has no place in the city may be where your from but not here does hi kicks will get you hurt or even worse. study be for you say anything.
Peacemaker
I don’t know what era wong fei hung was from, but in the olden days the chinese army was based on having superior numbers. Southern stylist might have made good cannon fodder with the feriocity in the attacks. Sure heaps of them might have got killed but it would have probably slowed the enemy down for the xing’I types to take tem out with ease. Just look at CLF, the large swinging arm movements are very very basic. No doubt the hits could be devastating if it makes contact, but you’re also opening yourself up to being smacked around. It’s not based on strategy as such.
I do not doubt your ability as a fighter and highly skillful with a fan. I’ve seen kung fu movies where the preferred weapon of some heros is a fan. maybe what I see on the screens is true afterall. Okies enough of that. So you smacked 1 guy while your Northern friend took the heat. That’s when you got the chance to smack the other guy - and both of you ran. Ok kung fu masters 2 NY punks 0. From what i understand it was all a matter of team work.
But what really turned the tide was when your other friend brought out a guy. That got the rest of the 6 guys running. Ok so the score is now Kung fu masters 2, punks 0, guy with gun 6.
I had incidents. Punk have hassled me and I’ve given them my wallets. I’ve been buying quite a few wallets. It’s cheaper than paying for KF classes though.
Maximus Materialize!
huh!huh!
okay you made a point but you see i study xing yi
now as a wrote in my past reply. but you see i studied hung gar,black tiger and dragon style,also wing chun, these in my opinion the best southern martial arts has to offer screw mantis it may have some effectiveness, but mantis guys really are to flashy, still ounce i started studing the internal ma’s i really forgot about all the external ma’s so it really doesn’t matter,
when i first read your post i doudt you were an ass now i kind think your cool, but one question if you thought mantis was so bad why the hell did you waist so much time on it. oh and wong fei hung was the guy who help liberate china and trained the army and he was a famous hung gar master. they made over 150 movies about him.
Hi-
Abandit- I am not a moderator on the southern chinese kung fu forum, and even so, I am a moderator and cannot ban anyone.
I’d like to make a comment about Wong Fei Hung from peacemakers post.
Wong Fei Hung was indeed probably the most well known and famous Hung Gar master who lived. Especially to the chinese who have indeed told and retold his story over the years since his passing (and even legends during his lifetime).
He did not so much “liberate” china as he did make the people aware of their own will. And through his Kung Fu he cemented the idea of personal strength in all who encountered him and moreso from those who were his students and peers.
In particular his student Lam Tsai Wing (Lam Saiwing) was of geat skill by all accounts and contributed quite a lot to the system which had been built upon previously by Wong Fei Hung.
These two, master(master Wong) and student(master Lam) made some of the greatest innovations within the practice of Hung Gar Kung Fu.
peace
Kung Lek
bored so i’ll bite
ego, you have no clue on what you are talking about.
your comments on choi li fut alone show your complete ignorance on these matters, and your comments on xing yi confirm this.
regarding fighting in china, and picking any dynasty, you show no understanding.
pure and simply put, i am saying your are PURE AND SIMPLE!!!