Gangsterfist:
I’m a big fan of slow motion sparring as a precursor to harder and faster sparring…and the conditioning that they’re putting you through could pay big dividends later.
slow sparring is hard actually. You have to go slow (when you want to go fast) and you have to use no tension. It actually helps build other attributes IMHO.
I am going to my second 6 elbows class tomorrow morning @ 8am, then I have wing chun with sifu from 11am to 3pm. So tomorrow is a whole lotta kung fu!
a hook is by its very nature a close range strike, a tight circular punch, so yea i hopefully would be attacking him cause wed be close up n personal, but jus cause im in there slappin him doesnt mean he cant do the same back, some kind of tight biu sau or elbow work would be needed to get in the way for sure.
im jus being a pernickety about your use of the word hook
-peace
“some kind of tight biu sau or elbow work would be needed to get in the way for sure.”
YEP…against a tight hook, it’s gotta be some variation of biu/lop…preferably at the inside cruk of his elbow joint.
Tan won’t cut it in this scenario.
Depending on the angle of the hook (deep or shallow) the Tan could turn into a lop/bil or Wu sao all the same. In most instances you will hit the man first, regardless of what hand shape you put up. If you are flanked by his faster footwork for whatever reason, or are attacked by the side, then I would prefer the Biu Sao kick, as the other hand is slightly too far away to be in play. Just so we are all on the same page, you side step into the punch on most cases but side steping or foward stepping away from the punching arm can be used and also we use the “facing the point of contact” concept, where in this case the Tan would be down the centerline and the centerline would face the contact point with your opponents limb, so that the punching arm/shoulder would be closer to the opponents target areas than the Tan arm/shoulder. Some WC lineages have this but call it something different and some don’t as far as my investigations have found.
James
So, in class today we had one of those re-breakable bricks. I could break the brick everytime if I released into it, even from short distances.
Anyone ever use those rebreakable bricks? I had never even seen one till today.
Does this remind anyone else of the training philosophy of a certain wing chun coach here on this forum?
Great stuff, G-fist.
Thanks for sharing. 
-Lawrence
I plead the 5th / what you talkin about willis !
Ernie,
If you are ever out in the midwest, you should check these guys out. Its not wing chun but its some good stuff
I will I plan on travelling around a bit and checking out the wing chun scene in the US as soon as i heal up , there are so many of you guys i need to meet and hang with , and my vacation time is pileing up ,
just need to be in good enough shape to handle all the abuse
hey email me i have some clips for you to check out , been pulling stuff off gary’s new dvd’s 
I just got his Wooden Dummy video and have skimmed through it to “preview” it. It looks pretty good! Most vids of the dummy I’ve seen just teach you the sequence. But this video concentrates a lot on theory and application. I’ve also noticed some differences from the dummy forms I have seen in the past. I’m assuming this is Wong Shun Leung’s “touch.”
Keith
Keith ,
the Dummy is one of my favorites of his , and to sit and watch him do it on a [good day when he is hyped up ] is just awsome , he really works it like a live partner controlling timing ,duel hand energy [push pull ] line ,speed and just enough power , not just dead hits on dead wood ,
his dummy is a bit more alive then WSL , i have alot of video of WSL doing the dummy and it was a bit more static , Sifu Lam does it more as you said with application energy , more how WSL applied himself vs just working the dummy .
the Dummy [with the way Sifu does it ] is a blueprint to the energy he uses in his system .
but this is not a Gary Lam thread so don’t want to high jack it from g-fist he might elbow me to death [ouch]
kieth if you want to rap about specfics on the dummy , just email me bro , no secrets , riddles , or AWARENESSSS IIIMMMMOOOHHOOOOOOOO
Will continue the wooden dummy hijacking of this thread for just a moment - because just last night I converted a William Cheung video to dvd.
The tape is called the LOST FOOTAGE…as it is a black and white video made back in 1980 (William was 39) when he returned to Hong Kong to tell the others for the first time about Traditional Wing Chun (TWC)…but he actually misplaced the master tape for many years…and put it out for sale at his seminars on a limited basis only about three years ago.
I don’t think they are available anymore.
The tape contains all three forms, the wooden dummy, some fighting sequences against an opponent, and some other things as well.
BUT ALL THE FORMS AND THE WOODEN DUMMY are slightly…and sometimes, as in the case of the wooden dummy especially…SIGNIFICANTLY…different than what he’s been teaching openly since going public with TWC.
When asked about that his response was that the original TWC wooden dummy sequences are too difficult for the average person to do - and he wanted to make TWC accessible to as many people as possible.
When I first heard this explanation I was sceptical - until I started working with the dummy sequences on the tape…and some sections are much more intricate and harder to do than the public version.
The entire video is pretty amazing, actually…and the man’s speed, power, precision, and footwork back then were nothing short of awesome.
They are midwest, but the guy who started the class is actually moving to california in a bit, and his most senior student is taking over the class.
I will post more info if and when I get it.
As far as the web goes, you can look up sifu sit by googling tai hui or 6 elbows. He is the one who taught the guy who runs the class. I really don’t know much about it, other than the class is hard work and very hands on.
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So I went the internal class on sunday, and it was pretty cool. The form itself looks beautiful. Too bad I only know like the first 3 postures
Today is the day where I work my a$$ off in class. Also, they guys who run this class are having a seminar the weekend of the 23rd of april. its going to be 1200 noon till 4pm sat and sun. It will cover many grounds of combat from stand up, clinch, ground, etc. No experience required in any martial art. Its just straight up combat. for more info you can drop me an email via this forum, or send one to larkdog@gmail.com
The seminar will be run by the guy who runs the class and his brother, who is a recon marine who just got out of the military. I expect it to be fun, and a good experience overall.
The seminar will be held in kansas city, so if you live close drop me a line.
re crosstrainging
hi gangsterfist, it is good you found a good style that fits in with wing chun
concepts, i have seen six elbows a long time go it is a very good style kepp it up if you can it can olny be of benifit to you, oh sifu victor in one of the threads you spoke of slow sparring this was the main reson i was albe to use wing chun my sifu chris stmamilos would spar with me to get my movement right and get my stance right ete this is a very important concept in traing peace russellsherry
Thx russell,
yeah they are a bunch of great guys to work out with.
Today was day one of the seminar. Did lots of stretching and a marine work out. I can’t even begin to tell you how many sets of push ups and crunches i did. We did sets of working out and then scrambling from ground position into a fighting position standing up. Of course we had to break it down into section and do each move correctly, while keeping our guard.
Did about 2 hours of so of pure ground work. My ground game has definately been pushed a level up after todays seminar. We covered everything from the take down, the guard, the mount, triangle chokes, arm bars, joint locks, getting out of the guard and mount position, so on and so forth. Its so funny how much wing chun pricniples of space crowding apply to the ground. Your center is the only thing that changes.
I am tired and beat, and tomorrow is going to be even tougher. I almost ralphed three seperate times during the work out. However, I did eat a sandwhich before I went. Tomorrow Im gonna eat a power bar or something and then show up 
My knees and elbows are pretty sore from working on the ground. We did everythign outside on the grass.
re cross training
hi gangsterfist , i am glad you are getting a lot out of it it is good to get some groundwork in particulary if it fit in with wing chunn concepts oh gangsterfist if you can ill ask david peteson where you can get them in the states get a hold of the late ed harts groundfighting tapes it is unreal he was awesome russellsherry