Step one: Buy a judogi
Step two: Bill Bellacheat the sleeves
Result: Shuai Jiao jacket!
I’ll quietly await my kudos
lol…if I’m not mistaken, you must wear on ‘official’ SC jacket to compete.
just like judo has it’s own uniform rules for it’s venue.
This is an interesting observation.
My experience in TRAINING judo has been almost entirely with high level competitive judoka, and gripwork was systemized and strategized to death for the simple reason that everybody at that level can throw incredibly well already…that’s how they got there. So gripping and conditioning are the tools to hone. Tons ot time spent doing gripwork. I use those gripwork strategies and concepts in my BJJ practice, actually.
I’ll admit that the rules of Judo do not allow the VARIETY of gripping, however.
Well, except for a few cases, my Judo experience was a PE class in high school, then training with other clubs. The BEST gripwork we had in Chicago was an unorthodox group - the Cohen brothers - who modified everything to make it work better. But I have never seen the level of systematic training I see in Shuai Chiao in Judo. But not knowing EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW, I could be wrong. I like Judo a lot, but found much more information for skill development i Shuai Chiao - the SC also translated more easily to free fighting.
Judo also has the benefit of a large practice base, so I’m sure there are different groups doing all sorts of stuff.
I gotta start saving my pennies cuz it looks fun http://youtube.com/watch?v=y5WL5wK-g4M
Too bad you can’t do sacrifice throws- that overly defensive head down stiff arming posture just screams “throw me”. I prefer a bicep / shoulder grip and double lapel- so the wierd jacket won’t be a problem. I see that there are many rewards for me to “reap” in shuai chou if you know what I mean.
Uchi Mata I yell crazily to myself…
You can get good quality Shuai Chiao uniforms through David Lin’s website, it’s:
http://www.combatshuaichiao.com/
I hope this helps.
Is it OK to wear black in competition?
Personally I don’t see a problem, although I have seen turney promotors that don’t allow it. I just always thought it was because they want you to buy their expensive SC jackets.
I have also seen plenty of Judo guys that have worn their Judo gi’s. It must be a money thing. Should the jacket really matter?? I don’t think so. People just want to compete, that’s the problem with alot of the promotors, they want to squeeze every penny out of people. Then there are the ones that have no problem as long as it’s a SC or Judo jacket.
In Taiwan, the SC jackets (for competition) are reversable, one side red the other is blue. This way one competitor is in one color while the other is wearing the reverse.
Mighty B-
I could not agree more! I have been telling John Wang and Company to start allowing sac throws in competition, as it will only make it more exciting to watch, and more challenging to do!
Jake 
[QUOTE=Three Harmonies;842634]…sac throws…[/QUOTE]
anyone who grabs me by the sac to throw me is gonna get punched in the face
Touche! 
[QUOTE=Three Harmonies;842708]Touche! :D[/QUOTE]
or Touch-e
hey, none of that here…get a room!
[QUOTE=Ho Chun;842617]You can get good quality Shuai Chiao uniforms through David Lin’s website, it’s:
http://www.combatshuaichiao.com/
I hope this helps.[/QUOTE]
I have one of his jackets and they are great for training but I don’t recommend it for tournements. It’s much thinner material than what most everyone else will be wearing and they will have a huge advantage in getting a good grip before you do.
[QUOTE=shuaichiao;842747]I have one of his jackets and they are great for training but I don’t recommend it for tournements. It’s much thinner material than what most everyone else will be wearing and they will have a huge advantage in getting a good grip before you do.[/QUOTE]
do you think that the black jackets would be allowed?
all my folks that are coming to do san shou have those black ones already, it’d be sweet monetarilly if they could use them and compete SC as well.
mas judt,
Apologies. I read what I wrote, puzzled a moment over your response, then realized what my post must have looked like. I emphasized the word training to distinguish that I do not compete at high levels. I didn’t want anybody to think I was claiming a particular level of skill and experience in judo that I can’t back up, and do not have 
it was not meant to suggest that “I have experience and clearly you do not, so what do you mean gripping isn’t a major judo thing, etc.”
I know nothing of SC, other than what I have read here, so my comment that you made an interesting observation was exactly that; gripping seems to be a tremendous focus of high level judo, which, perhaps, stands in contrast to those learning to throw…a different emphasis perhaps? Dunno.
[QUOTE=Oso;842753]do you think that the black jackets would be allowed?
all my folks that are coming to do san shou have those black ones already, it’d be sweet monetarilly if they could use them and compete SC as well.[/QUOTE]
I’ve never known there to be any rule on the color of the jacket but I’m not hosting the tournement either.
[QUOTE=shuaichiao;843146]I’ve never known there to be any rule on the color of the jacket but I’m not hosting the tournement either.[/QUOTE]
i’ll ask Sifu Gino, thanks.
MP - not a biggie. I was just clarifying that I don’t know everything about Judo and can only speak to my experiences.
The problem with many of these kinds of discussions is they often fail in clearly defining differences. I remember a thread that sought to make the point that certain wrestling moves or weightlifting moves did the same thing as certain moves in Chen Taiji. And while, on a superficial level the poster was correct - you will syill never develop Chen specific skills with those other pursuits.
I don’t see that so much here, as both are stand up grappling arts so they have a lot more in common than they don’t. But there are plus/minus differences between the two both generally and specifically, but it does not devalue either. It just depends on the goal you are seeking to achieve.
Great Lakes Kung Fu Championships
OSO and everyone that may have questions:
It does not matter what style of SC jacket you wear at our tournament. It does not matter what color they are. You can cut the sleeves off a Judo jacket if you want. (An expensive cut at $200).
SC jackets have shorter tighter sleeves so there is less ability to grip from the sleeve. They are tighter around the body as well. This to make it a bit harder for fighters grab and grip the jackets.
Anyone that has Sc rules questions, please let me know.
Ginosifu
ok, sweet. thanks.