i cant see the clip how did the kung fu boys do:D
I can’t read chinese, it says something like “Kung Fu goes nuclear on Muay Thai Champions”
They did well, the first match was won by the Chinese fighter as described above. Haven’t watched the others yet, gotta go.
AHAHAHAHAHA all the mt nut riders are crying n their pillows now
[QUOTE=goju;977520]AHAHAHAHAHA all the mt nut riders are crying n their pillows now[/QUOTE]
no, not really
palming the back of someone’s head is an illegal technique in most fightsports
either way, the winner wasn’t fighting out of horse stance or using techniques out of hong quan, it was just another sport fighter
solid win for sanda but for shaolin, not so much
EDIT: The fight after that one is Kaoklai in black shorts. WOW! Bad decision! These matches don’t really have much credibility after that… Kaoklai d@mn near pitched a shut out, out-threw the Chinese fighter and lost? What a joke of an event. Guess it’s gotta be embarrassing to get totally destroyed in the one thing you’re known for being good at (throws).
Third fight, dude in white & red flame shorts (EDIT2: This is naruepol fairtex, good fighter, chinese definitely won first round, after that not so sure). Watchin the highlights at the end of the round, you’d think he’d gotten his azz beat…o wait, it’s the same exact scene from 4 different angles looped over and over, the only time the chinese fighter did anything in the whole round.
site keeps going down for the other fights…
wanna see the one the thais won, musta beat that guy nearly comatose if the other fights are any indication…
“oh, the chinese fighter is tired? have the ref call a 20second break”,
“oh, the chinese fighter is injured? have the ref stand in front of the thia”,
“oh, the thai fighter is being pushed through the ropes? let’s let the chinese fighter throw a few more shots for good measure”
“oh, the round is over? let’s let the chinese fighter keep swinging”
“oh, the chinese fighter didn’t do anything but miss flicky shots & get his azz beat? let’s give him the decision anyway”
what a joke
well of course no one fought out of a horse stance those are used to train in forms not to fight lol:D
[QUOTE=goju;977552]well of course no one fought out of a horse stance those are used to train in forms not to fight lol:D[/QUOTE]
okay did anybody use any of their forms?
no
they threw standard san shou techniques
san shou != shaolin
my background is in san shou and i still do it
this was advertised as “shaolin” but “shaolin” seems to have sent san shou in it’s steed; in which case I have absolutely no reason to “cry into my pillow”.
Still some really phony bs going on in these fights though; at least the 3 I saw.
I trust the events held in Thailand much more.
In Thailand, it’s not about national interests (as in the case for China), it’s all betting interests, which has the odd side effect of evening things out & preventing such favoritism.
you cant use a form to fight someone bubba LOL
well ill have to watch them myself there were alot of people saying the lui hailong matches with the thai fighters were set up so the thais had some of there tools taken away from them but i sure as hell didnt see what they were talking about:D
so then you’re saying shaolin people who only do forms and gungs can’t fight? 
and yeah, padding up the elbow takes a lot off of it, plus if u watch, the ref only breaks the clinch early if the Thai has the dominant position.
[QUOTE=Pork Chop;977562]so then you’re saying shaolin people who only do forms and gungs can’t fight?
and yeah, padding up the elbow takes a lot off of it, plus if u watch, the ref only breaks the clinch early if the Thai has the dominant position.[/QUOTE]
ive never seen or met a person who only did forms
if there are any out there i feel sorry for them
thats bollocks thats like saying padding up the fist takes alot out of it you cans till knock someone down or out with a padded elbow
[QUOTE=goju;977563]ive never seen or met a person who only did forms
if there are any out there i feel sorry for them [/quote]
Those guys who fought trained very similar to the Thais, with heavybags, sparring, noncompliant clinch work, and drills. The only differences were in technique and more emphasis on takedown work.
They did not train compliant partner training, forms, gungs, and iron palm work.
They did not hold static postures, they did not wake up every morning to do qigong work, nobody pulled off any intricate application from a form, and they did not even work bridging.
They were san shou guys and I’m intimately familiar with san shou training.
You’re being real cute with semantics, but i promise you that they do not train what anybody would think of as “shaolin”.
thats bollocks thats like saying padding up the fist takes alot out of it you cans till knock someone down or out with a padded elbow
different situation than fists
you’re not as likely to crack a bone throwing a bare elbow as you are with fists
the range on it’s much shorter too
and yes, some guys will try to end fights on cuts from elbows
of course, i’m always available for demonstration - you can let me know what feels worse, my padded elbow cracking your skull, or my bare one…
[QUOTE=Pork Chop;977565]you can let me know what feels worse, my padded elbow cracking your skull, or my bare one…[/QUOTE]
Done correctly, you’d probably have to wait for him to wake up both times… might be a moot point, might not.
[QUOTE=Pork Chop;977565]Those guys who fought trained very similar to the Thais, with heavybags, sparring, noncompliant clinch work, and drills. The only differences were in technique and more emphasis on takedown work.
They did not train compliant partner training, forms, gungs, and iron palm work.
They did not hold static postures, they did not wake up every morning to do qigong work, nobody pulled off any intricate application from a form, and they did not even work bridging.
They were san shou guys and I’m intimately familiar with san shou training.
You’re being real cute with semantics, but i promise you that they do not train what anybody would think of as “shaolin”. [/QUOTE]
well first off are you certain that they do not train any of this?
[QUOTE=Pork Chop;977565]different situation than fists
you’re not as likely to crack a bone throwing a bare elbow as you are with fists
the range on it’s much shorter too
and yes, some guys will try to end fights on cuts from elbows
of course, i’m always available for demonstration - you can let me know what feels worse, my padded elbow cracking your skull, or my bare one…[/QUOTE]
actually ALOT of guys throw elbows soley for the purpose of cutting someone open so i can see why its padded after all its a pretty pathetic way to win a fight:D
[QUOTE=Pork Chop;977565]Ti’m always available for demonstration - you can let me know what feels worse, my padded elbow cracking your skull, or my bare one…[/QUOTE]
lol easy there killer
wait.. i dont think anyone was saying these guys were from shaolin. didnt shaolin turn down the challenge?
there’s just the one guy that they say is a shaolin disciple, but apparently no one ever said he was until after this fight.
doesnt matter though, since they were sanda fighters, not traditionalists in any way.
[QUOTE=LFJ;977570]wait.. i dont think anyone was saying these guys were from shaolin. didnt shaolin turn down the challenge?
there’s just the one guy that they say is a shaolin disciple, but apparently no one ever said he was until after this fight.
doesnt matter though, since they were sanda fighters, not traditionalists in any way.[/QUOTE]
exactly i thought another kung fu organization took up the challenge
[QUOTE=goju;977567]well first off are you certain that they do not train any of this?
[/QUOTE]
yes, i’ve got quite a lot of mainland chinese training footage
some’s even available through martialartsmart.com
[QUOTE=Pork Chop;977604]yes, i’ve got quite a lot of mainland chinese training footage
some’s even available through martialartsmart.com[/QUOTE]
yes and thats just a bit of theirtraining who knows what they do:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=goju;977608]yes and thats just a bit of theirtraining who knows what they do:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
never been to a fight camp, have yah?
[QUOTE=Pork Chop;977615]never been to a fight camp, have yah?[/QUOTE]
actually i just doubt you know enough about these gentlemen to make the statements you have including your knowledge of all of what they ve studied
watching a few clips doesnt do much:D
[QUOTE=goju;977617]actually i just doubt you know enough about these gentlemen to make the statements you have including your knowledge of all of what they ve studied
watching a few clips doesnt do much:D[/QUOTE]
i’m not talking a few clips, i’m talking first hand video
my main san shou coach fought san shou in China on tv
i also used to train with SanHeChuan’s coach, who’s from Taiwan and fought in China on tv
both of them have trained over there for varying lengths of time.
but hey, if you think they spent any significant amount of their time doing qigong, forms, compliant partner drills, stance training, bridging, iron palm, or other gungs, don’t stop drinking that koolaid. 
got direct links:
Kaoklai:
http://v.youku.com/v_playlist/f4024943o1p0.html
Kaew:
http://v.youku.com/v_playlist/f4024943o1p1.html
http://v.youku.com/v_playlist/f4024943o1p2.html
http://v.youku.com/v_playlist/f4024943o1p3.html
http://v.youku.com/v_playlist/f4024943o1p4.html
Big ben:
http://v.youku.com/v_playlist/f4024943o1p5.html
http://v.youku.com/v_playlist/f4024943o1p6.html
Naruepol :
http://v.youku.com/v_playlist/f4024943o1p7.html
http://v.youku.com/v_playlist/f4024943o1p8.html
http://v.youku.com/v_playlist/f4024943o1p9.html
http://v.youku.com/v_playlist/f4024943o1p10.html
http://v.youku.com/v_playlist/f4024943o1p11.html
Lamsongkram :
http://v.youku.com/v_playlist/f4024943o1p12.html
http://v.youku.com/v_playlist/f4024943o1p13.html
http://v.youku.com/v_playlist/f4024943o1p14.html