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Whatever it was it was scary.
Originally posted by themeecer
No just saying .. what’s the use? You are going to believe what you believe and I’m going to believe what I believe, period.
Yeah, but you’re wrong.
Originally posted by trilobite
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I’m with you Monkey. Our government blows and our officials are retarded. The original foundation of the country wasn’t too bad, (though George Washington was a drunken, wife-beating, slave owner/Freemason.) 
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Wow, if there’s one way to derail a thread, it’s to make it a Yank basher!
If this carries on I’m going to be agreeing with trilo AND TaiJi Monkey. What a funny old world.
Still vehemently opposed to themeecer though, of course.
Originally posted by trilobite
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Don’t be scared of themeecer. Just take him to the ground and ram a sock in his mouth and he’ll be both defenceless and unable to harm you.
Ok, I checked a few of the SD TJQ clips.
Very interesting I must say.
I am refusing to give an opinion as the clips were short and I don’t know of the skill level of the people doing the forms and I am not versed in some of the forms/styles being shown.
Naturally I can only judge against my personal experience and based on the styles I studied, which might not be accurate.
Actually I’ll use my alligator biting technique. That comment earlier was probably meant to be derogatory, but I like it … I think I am going to change my title to it. 
I can’t post too much here taiji or at least anything I found negative. Not good business to put down any other SD practitioners or schools, which I have learned from experience. Not that I am saying there is much to put down. You are right, the clips are very short. The only tai chi I know from that site is the yang tai chi and the tai chi sword. The yang tai chi clip wasn’t long enough to really show anything. The gal showed pretty good balance, not utterly rock solid but not many of us are. (Including me) The tai chi sword clip I won’t comment on, but once again not a very good part of the form.
Originally posted by themeecer
The tai chi sword clip I won’t comment on, but once again not a very good part of the form.
Well, you obviously don’t think it’s any good then. You can critique it politely can’t you?
Umm .. well honestly, it isn’t a very exciting part of the form. Nor is it very indicitive of the other parts.
Did I avoid that enough?
Originally posted by Serpent
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On the Mullins board it was being “taught” as valid technique.
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It wasn’t being “taught” on the Mullins borad. Themecer said it would work. Ralphie said he was a fool and I said if it was available then use it, but don’t rely on it as a good ground fighter would give you that opportunity. It was a discussion, nothing more.
Originally posted by KC Elbows
[B]I don’t think support is the crux of the matter here. I think it’s somewhat unrealistic to expect a forum devoted to a particular school to foster direct criticism of techniques of that school, criticisms that aren’t based in the idea that “all criticism is acceptable as long as it finds the school’s techniques to be sound”. The fact that Sd proponents didn’t comment on the inefficiencies of said proposal, despite there being several I know of who are smart enough to know better, suggests that debate in that case is not possible there because of mutual respect issues/political considerations.
In fact, the main support of the comments here essentially changed the context and meaning of the comments themselves in order to agree with them.
By the same token, anyone that is willing to expose their ideas to others and hold debate that way will do fine in the long run, and probably not merely accept things on face value because that is what they’re told.
On the flip side, more than a few people here just a few years back were proposing the same ideas as valid approaches to ground fighting, and some of them learned since then. [/B]
I said the same thing here as I did there: Biting and gouging might work if the oppourtunity is there, but you should not rely on it as your only defense to a ground game. I just defended themecer more here as I felt like he was being singled out.
Originally posted by themeecer
[B]Umm .. well honestly, it isn’t a very exciting part of the form. Nor is it very indicitive of the other parts.
Did I avoid that enough? [/B]
Yes.
So what are we arguing about now?
Originally posted by Judge Pen
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I said the same thing here as I did there: Biting and gouging might work if the oppourtunity is there, but you should not rely on it as your only defense to a ground game. I just defended themeecer more here as I felt like he was being singled out. [/B]
I guess that’s an accurate portrayal. I just think that debating with other members of a chain of schools is a headache rarely worth the effort simply because of politics. It’s much easier to debate with those you don’t have things you must agree with, imo. It’s like students only sparring their classmates: inbreeding leads to stagnation of ability/ideas.
As an aside, thus far, this thread has taught me that some branches of SD have an oral tradition.
I must apologize for that last statement. Truly, it was uncalled for. I am a worse man for it.
Forgive me.
In summation.
KC is hilarious.
Fatherdog is hilarious has jumped right in on the correct with both feet (in his mouth - hopefully not to be bitten off) and is treating its desperately flailing teeth to a kerb-stomping in a typically direct manner.
Themeecer is hilarious, the incorrect having taken him, swept him, pinned him, stripped him ugly-white-naked, bitten off his nutsack, taken it to a corner to be chewed and further worried until it’s even smaller. As usual.
Judge Penn is diplomatic, in the same way as trying to bite out somebody’s artery whilst studiously NOT using any of your more useful weapons, including the bloodied bone-stump of your broken arm… is diplomatic. New meaning: diplomatic = incorrect, or at least such low percentage as to be ludicrous. Unless of course, one of KC’s least trained midgets is attacking you mini-turkey-waving-naked with the famous 901st groundfighting form of Shaolin-do (the Golden Balls Presented to Big Sharpened Gnashing Teeth set).
Serpent is correct for a change, in his presentation of a crock unto the hallowed boards of KFO.
Red Shadow Laughing Monkey is plain old multifarious.
Did I miss anyone?
Nice to see nothing’s changed… :rolleyes:
And Mat is still his obnoxious self. (I edited what I really wanted to say. )
Originally posted by Judge Pen
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It wasn’t being “taught” on the Mullins borad. Themecer said it would work. Ralphie said he was a fool and I said if it was available then use it, but don’t rely on it as a good ground fighter would give you that opportunity. It was a discussion, nothing more. [/B]
Not true. The question was asked about what to do with a grappler. meecer said, “I would do this” and he is recognised there as a black belt with students. That makes him a teacher of sorts to all SD. When challenged on it he said that his Master taught this method also. So while it wasn’t a lesson as such it was being “taught” (notice the use of quotes!)
Pen, your diplomacy and lawyer like avoidance is infuriating. Your ass must be full of splinters from the amount of time you spend on the fence.
When I saw that you started this thread, I knew what you were doing and that is why I replied in the maner that I did. I am glad that others can see through you as well.
Instead of using this forum in a positive manner, we will just go back and forth. It is as if we are playing Tic-Tac-Toe, no one can win, we just start over and play the same game untill one of us doesn’t want to play anymore.
I think many of us waste too much bandwidth on bickering. Everyone else just drops by to laugh at us.
The post below was directed to serpent by someone else who shares the same feelings about this thread as I do.
Originally posted by T’ai Ji Monkey
You specified where it was posted and therefore knew that people would go and see who said it.
Nice attempt, but it don’t float. We all know that you got an agenda with SD and themeecer especially.
So drop the “I am so holy routine” we ain’t buying it.
themeecer came here and said that it was him and I give him credit for that.
IMHO, if you have a problem with what he said YOU should have replied on THEIR forum, rather than bring the issue up over here trying to make yourself look superior where YOU knew that you would get more support than on the other forum.
I say it as I see it, don’t like it? Tough luck. [/B]
He will not reply on that forum as he would have to give his real e-mail address rather than the Hotmail or Yahoo. But I actually agree with serpent as to his point of relying on biting.
Originally posted by Serpent
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Not true. The question was asked about what to do with a grappler. meecer said, “I would do this” and he is recognised there as a black belt with students. That makes him a teacher of sorts to all SD. When challenged on it he said that his Master taught this method also. So while it wasn’t a lesson as such it was being “taught” (notice the use of quotes!)
Pen, your diplomacy and lawyer like avoidance is infuriating. Your ass must be full of splinters from the amount of time you spend on the fence. [/B]
Hey thanks Serpent. In another post you said I was open minded and considered everyone’s posts. I was worrying about you, but I see you’re back to form now.
Just becasue a black belt teacher and his master advocate a technique doesn’t mean it is taught by all SD teachers and Masters. We can disagree amongst ourselves you know.