“I’d like to thank meatshake and sunfist for providing their asinine opinions without bringing any real substance to the topic at hand. You guys are great!”
Read my other threads smart guy. I trained SD for two years before I decided my time would be better spent fighting.
Hooray for more kids and women getting fit, Im just tired of hearing about deadly tiger style and drunken kung fu…
Its like when someone tells me they have a blackbelt in TKD… Its just kind of a joke at this point.
[QUOTE=Meat Shake;746349]“I’d like to thank meatshake and sunfist for providing their asinine opinions without bringing any real substance to the topic at hand. You guys are great!”
Read my other threads smart guy. I trained SD for two years before I decided my time would be better spent fighting.
Hooray for more kids and women getting fit, Im just tired of hearing about deadly tiger style and drunken kung fu…
Its like when someone tells me they have a blackbelt in TKD… Its just kind of a joke at this point.[/QUOTE]
Ok smarter guy…2 years means nothing other than SD might not be for you…doesn’t make what you do better only better for you. You also seem typical of alot of people on these forums…if your not doing what I do, YOUR WRONG and that my friend is an asinine opinion. Your full of yourself.
Have a Nice Day:)
BQ
I am doing fine Rad, thanks for asking:cool:
As far as the Ky area goes, there has never been a franchise fee. You were given a “franchise” area meaning that no other SD teachers could start a school within 20-30 miles but that was it. To be given the option to teach, you did have to agree to allow Master Sin to test your students and collect a test fee (was like $20 for ever then turned into the sliding scale Rad mentioned just a few years ago), and were asked to purchase the uniforms and equipment through the lex gym. I say asked because I always got mine through AWMA and no one ever said anything to me.
Teachers were also encouraged to get their students to attend the tournements and seminars and to join the SDA but it was never manditory. Heck, I joined it but only one or two of my students ever did.
The car donation was for his 60?? b-day I think. I wish people thought enough of me to buy me a freakin car! The one he had here that was used to visit the schools out and about was close to falling apart.
As for the cash only deal, there might be other reasons but the main one was that he would come in to test the students, then return to Cali. When he would try to cash the checks, EVERY time, there would be 4 or 5 that bounced. He would then have to send them to the gym, or to the students instructors and have to get someone to track down the money. Having taught in a few different towns than the one I lived in, it happened to me more times than I can count and I too went over to a cash only deal. Heck, now a lot of stores wont take checks anymore so I feel we were just ahead of the curve.
And since no one else has mentioned it, Liu Sing rocks:D
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And since no one else has mentioned it, Liu Sing rocks:D[/QUOTE]
i am looking forward to seeing/learning it … next year i guess …
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And since no one else has mentioned it, Liu Sing rocks:D[/QUOTE]
I’m still sore from it
It was an awesome day:)
BQ
And since no one else has mentioned it, Liu Sing rocks:D[/QUOTE]
No pun intended? It is nice.
[QUOTE=Golden Tiger;746506]As for the cash only deal, there might be other reasons but the main one was that he would come in to test the students, then return to Cali. When he would try to cash the checks, EVERY time, there would be 4 or 5 that bounced. He would then have to send them to the gym, or to the students instructors and have to get someone to track down the money. Having taught in a few different towns than the one I lived in, it happened to me more times than I can count and I too went over to a cash only deal. Heck, now a lot of stores wont take checks anymore so I feel we were just ahead of the curve.
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NSF checks have always been a fact of life and a part of doing business. However in the last 10 years I think this has become less of a problem. There is better tracking and communication. Also most people use debit cards these days instead of checks.
My question would be 4-5 bounced checked out of how many? Given the situation I would very surprised if I had that many out of 500 checks. The main reason is because of the business. Most students would not give you a NSF check. They would like to continue in the program but probably would not be allowed if they did not make the check good. Also it’s just too expensive. I charge $35 for a bounced check. Put this with the bank charges and that runs into some serious money. I also run any NSF checks through twice so if it bounces twice…
Personally I carry very little money. If a debit card or check is not good enough for you then we usually don’t do business. A “cash only” basis sheds a bad light on your business no matter the reason. And if the business is large enough it will soon attract the attention of Uncle Sam.
Then we probably wouldn’t. I don’t carry much if any cash these days myself unless I know that I will need it. And if someone knows months ahead of time that the need to have 30 or 40 dollars in cold hard cash, I don’t see how that is a problem.
And when you consider that he travels to about 20 small towns through out Ky testing, the feasibility of carrying a CC machine kinda goes out the window.
No pun intended? It is nice
Actually, I didn’t think of that until you mentioned it:p
I think what impressed me the most was watching him go thru it, if you notice the position of his strikes, they are generally dead on (pun intended) where they are supposed to be. It just reaffirms my confidence in Master Sin and the system.
I saw you a time or two BM2 but never got to say hello. Hope that you are doing well.
[QUOTE=Golden Tiger;746596]Actually, I didn’t think of that until you mentioned it:p
I think what impressed me the most was watching him go thru it, if you notice the position of his strikes, they are generally dead on (pun intended) where they are supposed to be. It just reaffirms my confidence in Master Sin and the system.
I saw you a time or two BM2 but never got to say hello. Hope that you are doing well.[/QUOTE]
I’m sure you noticed in the first round demo, the speed & power he still has.
BQ
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As for the cash only deal, there might be other reasons but the main one was that he would come in to test the students, then return to Cali. When he would try to cash the checks, EVERY time, there would be 4 or 5 that bounced. [/QUOTE]The West actually tries to take care of that by having the instructor, hosting the seminar, draw the total funds of their account.
So, if it was held in Los Angeles, that instructor would draw one check for all of his/her students. Each instructor of every state would do the same for his/her students. Then the hosting instructor would cut one check and give it to GMT. That way any problems, unfortunately, would fall back to the hosting instructor.
[QUOTE=godzillakungfu;746675]The West actually tries to take care of that by having the instructor, hosting the seminar, draw the total funds of their account.
So, if it was held in Los Angeles, that instructor would draw one check for all of his/her students. Each instructor of every state would do the same for his/her students. Then the hosting instructor would cut one check and give it to GMT. That way any problems, unfortunately, would fall back to the hosting instructor.[/QUOTE]
In any case the story sounded odd to me. I’m of the understanding that Sin test second black and above. Therefore going through 20 individual small towns in Kentucky to test one or two people at a time does not make a lot of sense.
However you’re right. There should be an appearance charge that is paid by the school. Any transactions with the students should be handled by the school itself.
In any case I can only speak about the school I attended. As far as I know there has never been any problems with anyone at our school as far as giving the Masters a NSF check. I’m sure it has happened but was corrected ASAP. It’s no big deal and I doubt it rarely happens here. “4 or 5 checks at a time”?..I’m amazed.
Nope, when he is in town, just about every day he is traveling to the schools away from Lexington. The schools are scheduled and usually one of the students from the main gym drives him there. BQ can attest to this. Talk about some good one on one talk time.
Also, he tests all ranks here, from white up. During testing when he is not here, Master Bill or one of the other Masters do the testing.
[QUOTE=Golden Tiger;746788]Nope, when he is in town, just about every day he is traveling to the schools away from Lexington. The schools are scheduled and usually one of the students from the main gym drives him there. BQ can attest to this. Talk about some good one on one talk time.
Also, he tests all ranks here, from white up. During testing when he is not here, Master Bill or one of the other Masters do the testing.[/QUOTE]
That’s exactly the way it is here.
BQ
NSF are mostly from students who have set a goal of quitting once they attain a certain belt level.
I recall when writting down everyone’s name and what they were testing for that day, if someone did have a check, he wanted their instructor’s name.
in csc he tests only upper blacks at the denver festival. all other visits by him to csc locations he tests all levels.
we do have the bonus of getting forms from him on all of his visits. a lot of schools just see him for testing.
Its not that Im full of myself, its simply the fact that I get tired of hearing about what a great style something is (especially when talking about actually fighting) and then you find out that no one in the system knows how to actually fight. If you condensed 3 belts material into one entire system, then yes, maybe there would be some people who actually could use something they learned…
[QUOTE=Meat Shake;747368]Its not that Im full of myself, its simply the fact that I get tired of hearing about what a great style something is (especially when talking about actually fighting) and then you find out that no one in the system knows how to actually fight. If you condensed 3 belts material into one entire system, then yes, maybe there would be some people who actually could use something they learned…[/QUOTE]
Then why do you keep posting here? If you don’t like Shaolin Do so much, then go to another web forum. Whether you like it or not Shaolin Do isn’t going anywhere, so you might as well save yourself the pain of reading our posts, that really don’t concern you since you are no longer a part of SD, and just go somewhere else. Personally, I’m getting tired of hearing all this macho, toughguy posturing from people who have no real insight into the subject at hand and all they talk about is what a bunch of bada$$es they are. You enjoy fighting so much, then get off the computer and get into a bar room brawl, or fight club or something.
[QUOTE=Meat Shake;747368]Its not that Im full of myself, its simply the fact that I get tired of hearing about what a great style something is (especially when talking about actually fighting) and then you find out that no one in the system knows how to actually fight. If you condensed 3 belts material into one entire system, then yes, maybe there would be some people who actually could use something they learned…[/QUOTE]
You spent 2 years in SD in one school and you say no one in the entire system knows how to actually fight. WOW
You just showed me you know nothing of system or the people in it…that statement makes me laugh.
There’s really nothing to say to you…you’ve answered my questions.
[QUOTE=Meat Shake;747368]Its not that Im full of myself, its simply the fact that I get tired of hearing about what a great style something is (especially when talking about actually fighting) and then you find out that no one in the system knows how to actually fight.
Are you saying no one in SD knows how to fight ? KC