[QUOTE=kwaichang;747609][QUOTE=Meat Shake;747368]Its not that Im full of myself, its simply the fact that I get tired of hearing about what a great style something is (especially when talking about actually fighting) and then you find out that no one in the system knows how to actually fight.
Are you saying no one in SD knows how to fight ? KC[/QUOTE]
sounds like it.
I would say that a high percentage of SD people know how to fight, but I’ll also say that only a small percent of people actually train with the intensity to prepare for a fight. I don’t actively train like I’m going to fight, but I have in the past and I’ll do it in the future.
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Hey Judge check your phone KC
[QUOTE=Meat Shake;747368]Its not that Im full of myself, its simply the fact that I get tired of hearing about what a great style something is (especially when talking about actually fighting) and then you find out that no one in the system knows how to actually fight…[/QUOTE]
Very, very false.
[QUOTE=Meat Shake;747368]If you condensed 3 belts material into one entire system, then yes, maybe there would be some people who actually could use something they learned…[/QUOTE]
Very, very true.
MEAT SHAKEwont respond I guess he is having a meatshake for dinner KC:)
[QUOTE=BM2;746824]NSF are mostly from students who have set a goal of quitting once they attain a certain belt level.
I recall when writting down everyone’s name and what they were testing for that day, if someone did have a check, he wanted their instructor’s name.[/QUOTE]
What kind of places are they running in Kentucky?
In my time at the CSC I knew of no students who would even think about doing something like that.
Aslo I ask a friend who’s owned a school for years and he said that, of course he’s had bounced checks, but always collected. He also mentioned that in all the years in business he never once had a student quit rather than honor a NSF check.
I imagine that happens from time to time but I would be surprised if your average school got more than one of these in a 5 year period.
[QUOTE=BoulderDawg;748135]What kind of places are they running in Kentucky?
In my time at the CSC I knew of no students who would even think about doing something like that.
Aslo I ask a friend who’s owned a school for years and he said that, of course he’s had bounced checks, but always collected. He also mentioned that in all the years in business he never once had a student quit rather than honor a NSF check.
I imagine that happens from time to time but I would be surprised if your average school got more than one of these in a 5 year period.[/QUOTE]
Shaolin Do schools and we take checks and it’s not that big of a problem…don’t believe everything you read
Oh Boy Now We Have 2 Threads About Sd Kc
[QUOTE=kwaichang;747796]MEAT SHAKEwont respond I guess he is having a meatshake for dinner KC:)[/QUOTE]
Actually Meat Shake is working 65 hours a week, working out 3 nights a week, taking piano lessons from a world class pianist, and cutting 2 albums and frankly doesnt have time to bicker on an online forum.
Thanks for playing however.
Every test I took…white, yellow, blue, green, three browns and a black was with GM Sin watching.
I know individual instructors take checks for instruction, but everytime I went to a test no checks were allowed.
I think SD’s sparring (required at every test) from the earliest belts (in KY anyway) would at least help with improving fighting ability.
[QUOTE=Radhnoti;748202]Every test I took…white, yellow, blue, green, three browns and a black was with GM Sin watching.
I think SD’s sparring (required at every test) from the earliest belts (in KY anyway) would at least help with improving fighting ability.[/QUOTE]
Well I guess that says something about CSC. I’ve never took a lower belt test that was supervised or oversaw by a master. In fact one test was judged by a 17year old black belt that seemd more interested in staring out into space.
Also I can only remember sparring going from yellow to blue. At my other lower belt tests the Masters were either not present or we just didn’t bother.
[QUOTE=BoulderDawg;748279]Well I guess that says something about CSC. I’ve never took a lower belt test that was supervised or oversaw by a master. In fact one test was judged by a 17year old black belt that seemd more interested in staring out into space.
Also I can only remember sparring going from yellow to blue. At my other lower belt tests the Masters were either not present or we just didn’t bother.[/QUOTE]The sparring may have been missing do to a few incidents when, head instructors weren’t around. 
“You just showed me you know nothing of system or the people in it…that statement makes me laugh.”
Sure guy…
I also went to austin quite a few times for seminars…
The throwing seminar with schaeffer was a joke.
Nice guy, but the throws were absolutely terrible.
Ive watched sparring with their “top black belts” as well, and if you ever post on bullshido there is a LOOONG thread about a BJJ white belt tooling a couple of his “best fighters”…
Sure, there may be a couple of people in SD who are naturally good fighters that can throw hands, but I can guarantee that it didnt come from learning SD.
I was inches from my blackbelt in SD when I quit.
.. but oh yeah, you dont even scrape the surface until blackbelt.
Too bad in Shuai Chiao, BJJ, Muay Thai, or any other fighting based art you have to be able to actively apply almost everything you have learned to that point, and it comes no sooner than five years, more likely 7-10. Go learn another 40 kata and tell me what a bad@ss you are.
And I do apologize for the few individuals involved in the system who have shown me respect like rad and JP, as I do not aim to offend you. Im just stating my points.
Talk about SD distorting the truth… If I read that thread correctly, the matches were stopped due to Hedge bleeding all over the place. But if he had one more round, boy, he was going to whoop them good. And since you brought it up, did the “I can’t get the vid transfered” video ever surface?
[QUOTE=Meat Shake;748394]“You just showed me you know nothing of system or the people in it…that statement makes me laugh.”
Sure guy…
I also went to austin quite a few times for seminars…
The throwing seminar with schaeffer was a joke.
Nice guy, but the throws were absolutely terrible.
Ive watched sparring with their “top black belts” as well, and if you ever post on bullshido there is a LOOONG thread about a BJJ white belt tooling a couple of his “best fighters”…
Sure, there may be a couple of people in SD who are naturally good fighters that can throw hands, but I can guarantee that it didnt come from learning SD.
I was inches from my blackbelt in SD when I quit.
.. but oh yeah, you dont even scrape the surface until blackbelt.
Too bad in Shuai Chiao, BJJ, Muay Thai, or any other fighting based art you have to be able to actively apply almost everything you have learned to that point, and it comes no sooner than five years, more likely 7-10. Go learn another 40 kata and tell me what a bad@ss you are.
And I do apologize for the few individuals involved in the system who have shown me respect like rad and JP, as I do not aim to offend you. Im just stating my points.[/QUOTE]
You mean the white belt that beat up an old SD dude, but then got his nose busted by the other Shaolin-Do guy…complaining, of all things, that the contact was too hard?
I have a real problem with ground-fighters who say “medium contact” but then get you on the ground and go 100%. That’s not a fair test of skills.
Oh my…I actually agree with MK. What is the world coming to?
But his statement is correct.
[QUOTE=Meat Shake;748394]“You just showed me you know nothing of system or the people in it…that statement makes me laugh.”
Sure guy…
I also went to austin quite a few times for seminars…
The throwing seminar with schaeffer was a joke.
Nice guy, but the throws were absolutely terrible.
Ive watched sparring with their “top black belts” as well, and if you ever post on bullshido there is a LOOONG thread about a BJJ white belt tooling a couple of his “best fighters”…
Sure, there may be a couple of people in SD who are naturally good fighters that can throw hands, but I can guarantee that it didnt come from learning SD.
I was inches from my blackbelt in SD when I quit.
.. but oh yeah, you dont even scrape the surface until blackbelt.
Too bad in Shuai Chiao, BJJ, Muay Thai, or any other fighting based art you have to be able to actively apply almost everything you have learned to that point, and it comes no sooner than five years, more likely 7-10. Go learn another 40 kata and tell me what a bad@ss you are.
And I do apologize for the few individuals involved in the system who have shown me respect like rad and JP, as I do not aim to offend you. Im just stating my points.[/QUOTE]
Give me reason to respect you and I will…why JP & Rad respect you I don’t know…you have only shown disrespect To GMS & SD on this thread & others with your asinine comments. Regardless of what you think were always open to working out with other people & sharing fighting techniques…if ever in Lexington look us up…we’ll play on the ground with you:eek:
otherwise go shake your meat elsewhere
I’ve been around these forums a long time, back when MeatShake was a green belt in SD and posting as Shaolin-Do and ardently advocating SD. I’ve shared many a PM with MS. I thought he had a strong will to train but questioned some of his perspectives (while he was in SD). My opinion of him hasn’t changed. I have no doubt the guy trains very hard but I can’t agree with his perspectives. He knows this, but, like everything, I try to be as agreeable as I can in my disagreeing. Even so, MS knows that there are many things he posts that I think are unfair, untrue and inflammatory. He also knows that I try to see the points he has to make when you cut through the mounds of bs that come with anyone on an internet forum that has an obvious axe to grind about a topic.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
As I recall at the beginning of the thread Hedgehogey admitted the SD people he sparred had some skill but shortly after that the thread deteriorated and lost its objectivity.
IIRC, it also came out that he had bounced around from one MA to another for a number of years but wouldn’t claim credit for learning anything from them. It’s possible, I guess, but seems a little unlikely. If you’re doing any kind of sparring in class you’re probably, at the very least, learning how to punch and dodge or block some hits. =\
You’ve got to give that guy credit though. Going into somebody else’s school and sparring some of their higher ranking belts. That takes a lot of guts. I think he also got injured during the first match but still sparred another round.
That aside, we don’t learn ground work (at least I haven’t really seen any). I can’t speak for anybody else but I’m sure if I got taken down, which is more than possible, I would be toast. That will hopefully be rectified starting a year from now when I start BJJ or something similar.
Darn, I thought it was a thread about SD numbers.
Anyway, hedge was a beginner in BJJ. He had a total of four/five years in other TMAs as I recall. No, I refuse to re-read that train wreck thread to affirm the amount of training.