Bd
SD isnt spreading out that fast due to the politics of the sections and all. KC
bd didnt you quit?
I’m still an active member…I just haven’t been since December. Plus I stay in touch.
why not come back in then.
you just tested to black right?
pm me..id like to meet up
[QUOTE=yutyeesam;745252]Actually, it is good. I bet Shaolin Do is reaching people who would’ve:
a. never even thought of doing Kung-Fu in the first place
b. people who are in places where there probably is very little to no CMA at all
Say what one will on the vailidity/authenticity. It can’t be denied the fact that SD is effective with marketing and leadership. I think CMA school owners can learn something from SD’s organizational model. If we have the art that we think is great guns, then we should learn from the way Sin The runs his organizations.
Yes there are successful CMA schools with high numbers. But SD has CMA schools with high numbers all across the country. I really doubt any single CMA school has been able to do this with this level of success.
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SD is not a CMA.
Ill show myself out 
[QUOTE=sunfist;745537]SD is not a CMA.
Ill show myself out :)[/QUOTE]
Thats your opinion & you know what they say about that:)
OH…Good Bye:D
[QUOTE=Baqualin;745590]Thats your opinion & you know what they say about that:)
OH…Good Bye:D[/QUOTE]NICE.Have a great day!!!
Yay!! Another thread for Shaolin Do to dominate!! 
I’d like to thank meatshake and sunfist for providing their asinine opinions without bringing any real substance to the topic at hand. You guys are great! 
CSC has no franchise fees, as far as I know. At least that’s what my teacher said. it’s not officially a franchise. Some of the smaller schools aren’t breaking even, or just barely. They don’t pay their assistant instructors, but i think they might give credit applicable towards memberships and classes, essentially letting them train for free. At least that’s what we did at my former school for a while (until our teacher couldn’t afford it anymore). The Soards have a lot more students than any of the other schools, though, and so are making a lot more just on memberships and inventory. The seminars make a lot of money, too, especially the ones in denver and boulder, where there will be close to a hundred students sometimes. I have no idea how much they take home at the end of the day. For most instructors, it’s a labor of love. A lot of them need another source of income to make ends meet.
Well, if that’s the way they make their living, I sincerely doubt they would allow you to put up a CSC banner outside of your school just out of the goodness of their hearts. I think it’s a pretty safe bet they get something out of the schools.
Festivals are a big money maker however that was factored into the $100/month number. Testing is also a big money maker…although I would be willing to pay more monthly and do away with testing fees.
I can’t speak for anyone else, but there are no “franchise fees” or percentages in our end of the world.
SD has no franchises…each school belongs to the indivdual instructor.
Along with others I teach for free at our school, but will charge for private lessons.
csc has no franchise costs.
[QUOTE=kungfujunky;746046]csc has no franchise costs.[/QUOTE]
How would you know that for sure? I sure would not let them use my intellectual property(name) or say that I’m associated with CSC unless I got a little something.
I seem to remember Master Sharon saying as much a year or so ago. They also said GMT doesn’t collect franchise fees (from CSC). Just what they make from the grand master festivals.
i know that because i have asked.
they make their money from testing and festivals.
I think the CSC instructors may sign some kind of contract. I know the official assistant instructors do, indicating that they will not do drugs or drink alcohol, will not be a member of another martial arts school, and some other stuff I don’t remember now. In the Springs, our instructor got the paperwork and material for the assistant instructor contracts from them, so I know they use it in Denver/Boulder. The school owners/instructors need to attend the annual or bi-annual instructor training with the Soards, which is probably where they would sign such a thing. I don’t know if the instructor contract might give the Soards the power to take a CSC school away from someone who breaks the rules. Probably not, but they of course have the power to strip someone of their rank and tell them that they legally can’t call the school CSC anymore.
[QUOTE=Leto;746207]I think the CSC instructors may sign some kind of contract. I know the official assistant instructors do, indicating that they will not drink alcohol.[/QUOTE]
That would disqualify me.
[QUOTE=Judge Pen;746235]That would disqualify me. :p[/QUOTE]
Its taken out of context.
It has more to do with things in the past. Let’s say it is more to do with an Instructor getting drunk with students than having a few at home.
There are no franchise fees, as in intellectual property, as BD is saying. If you combine what Leto and BD are saying you are on the right track.
I’ll continue to lurk correcting what I can.
No, possible lawsuits for me thank you.
No franchise fees for my old school in KY (3 yrs ago). GM Sin charged testing fees on a sliding scale that increased as you progressed. The only thing I found odd about THAT was it was cash only. I showed up for my first belt test with my check book and had to scramble to put together the cash to test.
We were encouraged to attend GM Sin’s seminars and, once, to donate for a car. Nothing too scandalous in my opinion.
Hope everyone is doing well.