Personally I find the abuse of tires a bit bothersome…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y25omNZ7Eg&feature=em-share_video_user&fb_source=message
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1172501]Personally I find the abuse of tires a bit bothersome…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y25omNZ7Eg&feature=em-share_video_user&fb_source=message[/QUOTE]
almost…tiring..?
I remember the first time I walked into a boxing gym and haveing come from a MA background I was appalled to see that there was no “formal classes” per say.
I don’t see a problem with formal classes, it gives people a set structure to follow, they know what to expect and what is next ( Not always a good thing mind you).
BUT it is not needed for all and can even be counter-productive at times.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1172504]I remember the first time I walked into a boxing gym and haveing come from a MA background I was appalled to see that there was no “formal classes” per say.
I don’t see a problem with formal classes, it gives people a set structure to follow, they know what to expect and what is next ( Not always a good thing mind you).
BUT it is not needed for all and can even be counter-productive at times.[/QUOTE]
I was always curious about that. How do noobs who have never been in a boxing club start? With no formal classes what do the instructors do to get the new guys started?
[QUOTE=Brule;1172514]I was always curious about that. How do noobs who have never been in a boxing club start? With no formal classes what do the instructors do to get the new guys started?[/QUOTE]
They get coached.
One on One with either the HC or an assistant.
At least that was how it was in the olden days, LOL !
wait i didnt think you could spar with gloves in chinese arts…
[QUOTE=Frost;1172531]wait i didnt think you could spar with gloves in chinese arts…[/QUOTE]
Jingwu, enough said 
I don’t see anything wrong in that clip. That’s exactly how a Sanda/Sanshou class suppose to conduct. No forms but solo drills, partner drills, equipment training, and sparring. You don’t want to train too many drills. You concentrate on just few drills and do it in every classes for a long period of time. It may be boring but that’s the only way to be good at few thing.
[QUOTE=Frost;1172531]wait i didnt think you could spar with gloves in chinese arts…[/QUOTE]
If one wants to be a serious “combat sport” fighter, he will have no choice but to get familiar with the “combat sport” environment and rule set.
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1172557]I don’t see anything wrong in that clip. That’s exactly how a Sanda/Sanshou class suppose to conduct. No forms but solo drills, partner drills, equipment training, and sparring. You don’t want to train too many drills. You concentrate on just few drills and do it in every classes for a long period of time. It may be boring but that’s the only way to be good at few thing.[/QUOTE]
Well…it was a bit to “formalized” to be honest.
You don’t really have to formalize equipment work like that - doing a circuit and taking turns hitting things- although that is a very "TCMA’ approach to it.
I like the lay-out of the facility, and the variety of drills; also the throwing practice on the large mats makes a great deal of sense in terms of being able to repeat the throws w/out ur partner getting rocked
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1172585]Well…it was a bit to “formalized” to be honest.
You don’t really have to formalize equipment work like that - doing a circuit and taking turns hitting things- although that is a very "TCMA’ approach to it.[/QUOTE]
I don’t know. I go to gym 3 times a week. Everytime I’ll do exactly the same exercise and never change. I may modify my training, but after my modification, I’ll stick to it until I can find better way to modify it again.
Why change it if you think your training program is the best that you can construct at that particular moment?
I think the intensity could be ramped up just a wee tad. oui? Non?
[QUOTE=TenTigers;1172619]I think the intensity could be ramped up just a wee tad. oui? Non?[/QUOTE]
How can you get more intense than Tong Po ?
[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;1172593]I like the lay-out of the facility, and the variety of drills; also the throwing practice on the large mats makes a great deal of sense in terms of being able to repeat the throws w/out ur partner getting rocked[/QUOTE]
I actually like the tire-double-end-ball setup.
Those guys probably have excellent footwork, because they use footwork to get in range, strike, and then use footwork to move immediately afterwards.
What I don’t like was treating a double end ball like a speed bag; that just looks silly.
For a split second, later on, they start using the double end bag properly.
Funny enough; that setup’s gotta be a he|| of a lot cheaper than an actual heavybag setup for all those people. Tires are easy to get cheap, and double end bags can usually go for between 50 & 70 bux, with much fewer considerations as far as hanging them.
I don’t like the wide hooks, even with a leg caught, they will get you killed by someone with good straight punches.
I LOVE the crash pads.
Sparring gauntlet’s pretty sweet.
Stick work & sticky hands are an awesome way to keep it traditional as well as modern and realistic.
[QUOTE=TenTigers;1172619]I think the intensity could be ramped up just a wee tad. oui? Non?[/QUOTE]
In my opinion, the only thing that was lacking was power.
Almost everything was focused on speed, endurance, and technique.
The only thing even close to power was picking people up and chucking them onto the crash pads.
They could probably use 3 large thai bags (heavy) and 3 boxing bags (with a lot of swing), to actually work power.
I think you all are being far to gracious.
It lacked intensity, aggressiveness and if they had been wearing kung fu uniforms, we be all over them.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1172630]I think you all are being far to gracious.
It lacked intensity, aggressiveness and if they had been wearing kung fu uniforms, we be all over them.
:p[/QUOTE]
really? can’t tell if serious…
I thought it was good, I don’t have a problem with it.
Most of that leg catch stuff wasn’t sparring - it was defense drills done with speed.
Like I said, I hated the double end ball as a speed bag, and I thought they could’ve done more power-related drills.
Otherwise, if half of the lazy a$$es at my gym trained with that intensity, I’d be happy.
How long will it take for someone to jump in and redirect this thread discussion to “internal vs. external”?
I counter with this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uquJp40n8Uo