[QUOTE=hskwarrior;1052842]then i mistook your message. my apologies.
Yeah, we do alot of verticle back fists aimed at your nose. we’d get dq’d for those cause the tournaments only knew of the back fist to the side of the head.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;1052842]then i mistook your message. my apologies.
Yeah, we do alot of verticle back fists aimed at your nose. we’d get dq’d for those cause the tournaments only knew of the back fist to the side of the head.[/QUOTE]
you can see that this was a controlled strike, and yet…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYcNJuRxFTg
oh well…
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;1052832]because at the part the guy fell to the floor, the combo of Kwa Choy Sow Choy Sow Choy is very common in CLF and very noticeable as CLF.
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we have that same combo in our Wu Dip Jeong form in Hung-Ga.
So THERE!
(probably got it from CLF…)
weird when u said the Jow Ga “judge” didn’t know the signature technique of his own style.
so what the hell would he use in real fighting?
pak sao chung chui?
we have that same combo in our Wu Dip Jeong form in Hung-Ga.
So THERE!
(probably got it from CLF…)
perhaps lol 
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;1052798]in the 90’s the tournaments were a little better than this one. I was judge at one of them when this BAK EAGLE CLAW group came through and attempted to beat everyone to a bloody pulp. The BAK EAGLE CLAW guys shirts were always torn and bloody. They were treating it like a FULL CONTACT match when there clearly were limits to the power used. i don’t mind good fighting and will let stuff go…if a tooth gets knocked out thats one thing. blood is ok too as long as its not too bad. a bloody nose or something.
but when i asked the judges what they based their decision on they said “when the guys head rocks side to side you are doing TOO much”. i was like WTF LETS GO.[/QUOTE]
Lol. That was one of my Sigong’s old groups. :eek:
Lol. That was one of my Sigong’s old groups.
who was your sigung? the white guy with greased back hair or the black fellow?
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;1053256]who was your sigung? the white guy with greased back hair or the black fellow?[/QUOTE]
He probably wasn’t there…I don’t know those guys, before my time…that group is gone now, I believe. My Sigong would have been the short Malaysian fellow if he was there.
He probably wasn’t there…I don’t know those guys, before my time…that group is gone now, I believe. My Sigong would have been the short Malaysian fellow if he was there.
It’s no more now? you know who they had the biggest problems with? the CLF people used to beat the living day lights out of them. but, they were there to fight…i give them that. they were very vengeful as well. if one of their classmates got beat and another had to fight the same guy…the new fighter would take it out on the next fighter.
very intersting …thanks bro
yeah, I’ve heard some funny stories I’ve got no license to repeat. Anyway, my school isn’t like that. Really nice people actually.
Here is my idea… put all of the fighters in a locked up cage… the last one standing wins.
It’s simple and it satisfies everybody’s need for violence.
There will never be a happy medium because no one respects what the other does…
if you do point sparring YOU SUCK!
if you do continuous sparring YOU SUCK!
if you do MMA YOU SUCK!
if you do San Shao YOU SUCK!
if you do Full Contact YOU SUCK!
if you do K-1 YOU SUCK!
I guess it doesn’t take any skills to do any of the mentioned forms of competitive combat sports so, why bother?
Point sparring as a child is a perfectly appropriate practice.
[QUOTE=KC Elbows;1053323]Point sparring as a child is a perfectly appropriate practice.[/QUOTE]
I agree to a certain extent… however, everybody that practices martial arts can’t do full contact sparring/fighting.
I have had students that had medical conditions, others disabilities, others were older, and other students enjoyed the competiveness of sparring but weren’t doing it because they wanted to be “fighters”…
everybody does martial arts for different reasons not everybody is looking to become a “warrior” so to discredit their efforts just shows how ignorance is starting to prevail as the philosophy of the modern martial arts world.
Point sparring annd continuous sparring are the only options at most competitions. Seems like practitioners are not being given much choice, or the schools are entirely made up of children, the disabled, and people who don’t want contact.
My experience is the option of what level one can take it to isn’t offered much. It’s either got the option for contact, or it’s non-contact point stuff.
[QUOTE=MightyB;1052863]I think I brought this up a while ago… but what are the rules to Sports JuJitsu 'cuz these guys give it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5vlLlIinus
I haven’t seen it around here yet.[/QUOTE]
They rock the beats too! 
I use point fighting as a stepping stone. You learn to mix it up, take some shots-especially the ones that slip in, and develop a feel for distance, timing, speed,and elusiveness.
I don’t like the techniques that some people use, such as the flippy backfists, or diving lunge punches and the turning your back to run away, etc. That develops bad habits and a false sense of security.
“The techniques that win you the trophy in the tournament, will get you killed in the parking lot.”
But I still enjoy watching a point fighter that is at the top of his game. Some of those guys are just so smooth and slick.
I appreciate any skill when it’s done well.
But, continuous sparring is a good training tool.
I have my students fight the way they fight in continuous fighting when they fight at point tournaments.
Throw combinations and don’t stop. Let the judges pull you apart.
Those who no longer find it a challenge and want to step it up, can move up to harder events.
Some people aren’t cut out for full-contact, and that’s fine. They can still enjoy competition at their level.
I knew plenty of “point fighters” that could handle themselves quite well in the street.
There are also quite a few point fighters that went on to full-contact.