Now you did it
“I’ll take my three years of Hwa Rang Do training any day over your argument here:”
Oh, were going to spout off lineages here, well thats not my cup of tea. I’ll ask you though how many times have you tried to stop a takedown from a good experienced grappler. I’ve been training with wrestlers for a good portion of my life in the sport venue and again with MMA. I’ve tried it thousands of times with people from various styles and 99% of the time I come up with the same conclusion. You cannot stop a takedown with just striking.
“Bologna. What it REQUIRES is IMPACT with FORCE and that’s it. If you can’t deliver impact with force without being solidly on your feet you’re in a world of hurt as a martial artist. You can’t strike on your back? You can’t strike while you’re falling? You can’t strike in the air? What’s the matter with you?”
WRONG WRONG WRONG, every good striker I have trained with insists that power starts from your feet goes up your body and is transfered to the strike. Of course you can still strike while being taken down but strike EFFECTIVELY… NO. Actually lets do a forum poll here, anybody thats reading this please respond.
“Why, I repeat, why let your opponent get that far? If you’ll notice in the photo the Wing Chun gentleman’s feet are still on the ground. So the photo doesn’t even fit your original premise much less the five feet in the air non-sense.”
That is a STILL photo of a takedown in its initial stages. I have that fight on tape, in fact Rickson drives Levicki from the center of the ring through the ropes onto the floor. David didn’t “let” Rickson take him down; he couldn’t properly defend it, he couldn’t strike effectively so he was forced to the ground.
“Why? Suddenly your arms don’t work because you aren’t upright with your feet on the floor? What kind of a malfunctioning body do you have? Mine seems to work fine in any position.”
Because your strikes are not effective nor powerful at this point. If you don’t know how to defend the takedown you’re better off trying to break your fall and not get knocked out from the takedown.
“Maybe YOU don’t. But I can tell you from EXPERIENCE that if you shoot in on me like that, the point of my elbow is going to do far more damage to your spine than you’d care to experience whether I’m five feet in the air or not.”
Please tell me about your experience, I’d love to hear about what you’ve done.
“Screw that. Somebody puts their body within striking distance? Demolish it! Why defend when you can just as easily attack?”
It’s so easy to sit there and theorise what you would do. I’ve seen 12 years of MMA fights, all of which are documented and easily viewable on video tape. literally thousands of fights and all of them say that you are wrong. I’ve never seen what you are implying work.
“You want to test your theory? You try that Gracie maneuver in a fight against even an intermediate Hwa Rang Do practitioner. Let me know how it goes.”
Actually there is a guy on this forum named Knifefighter, hes in your area and he can set one of you guys up with MMA fighters for professional fights any rules you want. Leave him a message, and tape it if you can.
Knowledge is King!
