Real Swordfights

Just a starter for a new thread here.

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[QUOTE=GeneChing;1270310]Just a starter for a new thread here.

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Sad and saddening.

Ever since the Golden Temple Incident (Amritsar) and the killing of Ghandi by the Sikh bodyguards, it MAY be time to seek some independence from Greater India.
Recently 2 states were created so it is feasible for a Sikh nation to form. So much for Peace and Love of one’s fellow man. om svasti siddham!

[QUOTE=mawali;1270331]Ever since the Golden Temple Incident (Amritsar) and the killing of Ghandi by the Sikh bodyguards, it MAY be time to seek some independence from Greater India.
Recently 2 states were created so it is feasible for a Sikh nation to form. So much for Peace and Love of one’s fellow man. om svasti siddham![/QUOTE]

Not Ghandi-please it’s Gandhi.
India is one of the most diverse societies anywhere. Yet it’s young democracy has survived many challenges since 1947.
The recent fracas at the Temple was between the administrators of the temple and a small group that demanded greater voice
in the proceedings.
Indira Gandhi made a big mistake at the temple, then things settled down. The Sikh element in the Indian army is huge.
A young and huge democracy can be noisy and bend without breaking.

Apparently, they’ve forgotten how to use swords they’ve become ceremonial for too long.
Old men flailing.

Not that I want anyone hurt, in which case, it’s probably better that such stubborn ignorance not be skilled or blindly successful in acts of violence.

Sword fight in Dubai

Four arrested for sword fight in Dubai hotel
Amira Agarib/Principal Correspondent / 23 February 2015

A security guard of the hotel in the Al Rigga area notified the police on Wednesday about the fight which started over an accidental physical contact outside the washroom of the hotel.

Dubai - The Dubai Police have arrested four Arab suspects, including two Emiratis, in connection with a fight that left one of them seriously injured. The suspects, two of whom are Saudis, used knives and swords in the fight that reportedly began over an accidental physical contact outside the washroom of a hotel, the police said.

Major-General Khalil Ibrahim Al Mansouri, Assistant Commander-in-Chief of Dubai Police for Criminal Investigation, said a security guard of the hotel in the Al Rigga area notified the police on Wednesday about the fight. A team from Al Murraqabat police station was dispatched to the site, where the suspects aged between 25-29 were found injured. They were rushed to Rashid Hospital.

The interrogation of the injured Saudi revealed that the brawl started over an accidental physical contact outside the washroom of the hotel. One of the suspects shoulders brushed with another. This led to an exchange of insults, followed by an argument and a fight, Al Mansouri said.

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Can anyone just pack swords at Dubai hotels?

A gauntlet. A real gauntlet!

This is a story that might be well worth following here. :slight_smile:

13th April 2015
“Let’s meet in Hyde Park one morning, with our swords”: a Polish prince challenges Nigel Farage to a duel

A clash of swords.


Janek yliski wants to use his war hero father’s sword to fight Nigel Farage.
Photo: YouTube screengrab

By Anoosh Chakelian

The election campaign has just taken an 18th-century turn for the better. A Polish prince, sick of Ukip’s denigration of eastern European migrants, has challenged Nigel Farage to a duel.

It looks like a literal skirmish is on the cards at last for all us political commentators churning out tired military metaphors for the election campaign.

Prince Janek yliski, son of Prince Andrzej yliski, who saved 6,000 Jews during the Second World War when he led a cavalry charge against the Germans in 1939, wants to draw swords with Farage in Hyde Park. Or, failing that, to challenge him to a “duel of words” in a TV debate if his “sword is a little bit rusty”.

Here he is, saying “I’ve realised that what I now have to do is to stand up in defence of my people”, telling Farage that “enough is enough” and challenging him to a duel:

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“I would like us to meet in Hyde Park one morning, with our swords, and resolve this matter in the way that an 18th-century Polish aristocrat and an English gentleman would traditionally do. Are you up for it, Mr Farage?”

An intriguing proposal. But I don’t know who yliski is calling an English gentleman.

Flailing…

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1270491]Apparently, they’ve forgotten how to use swords they’ve become ceremonial for too long.
Old men flailing.

Not that I want anyone hurt, in which case, it’s probably better that such stubborn ignorance not be skilled or blindly successful in acts of violence.[/QUOTE]

I think you may be approaching the truth.

machetes & pipes

I think this counts, if just for the 2016 ttt. Plus it’s Chinese school girls. There’s a vid if you follow the link.

Horrific footage shows dozens of schoolgirls hacking each other with machetes and steel pipes in massive brawl

About 20 girls attacked each other in Xincheng County, China, on March 20
Brutal fight which took place on a housing estate was captured on camera
The two parties allegedly had a dispute on the internet leading to the brawl

By CHLOE LYME FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 11:15 EST, 24 March 2016 | UPDATED: 13:55 EST, 24 March 2016

A dramatic video has emerged from China of the moment a gang of girls attacking each other with steel pipes and machetes.

The huge fight - involving around 20 teenage girls - was captured on camera on March 20 in Xincheng County, Guangxi Province, reports the People’s Daily Online.

Police are currently investigating the fight which is believed to be caused by a previous dispute on the internet between the two parties.

They had huge steel pole, machetes and various other dangerous objects during the fight



Vicious: A gang of around 20 girls attacked each with weapons on March 20 in Xincheng County, China

The 80-second video shows the girls charging at each other armed with long steel pipes, machetes, sticks and other objects.

There’s no holding back as they hit each other with full force around a housing estate.

As the fight progresses, dozens of people of all ages stand around and look on. No one tries to break them up.

According to the report, the police have said that this is an online dispute between girls related to gang war.

The shocking moment was captured on cameras as the girls attacked each other at a housing estate

It is believed they were fighting over men, the police are now investigating the fight



Savage: The shocking moment was captured on cameras as the girls attacked each other at a housing estate

In the video it is hard differentiate between the two sides, all of the girls seem to be hitting anyone who gets in their way.

One girl wearing a grey tracksuit is holding a blade, she hits another girl with it whilst screaming at her. Shockingly people can be heard laughing in the background as this is happening.

Others kick a girl to the ground then start whipping her with their weapons when she is on the floor.

Someone is heard shouting ‘you are not my friend’ in Chinese, but it is unclear who exactly is saying this.

Reportedly no one was seriously injured during the fight, and the case is under investigation.

sword vs. rod

Not quite as good as swords, Chinese girls, and pipes, but whaddaya want from da bronx?

Sword fight breaks out outside Bronx apartment building
By Wilson Dizard June 27, 2016 | 3:54am


Photo: Tomas E. Gaston

It was a real-life “Rumble in The Bronx” Sunday as two men faced off in a movie-style sword fight at the door to an apartment building — with one brandishing a foot-long blade and another a heavy metal rod.

The broad-daylight drama started at about 11 a.m. at 1275 Edward L. Grant Highway in Highbridge when a man with an iron bar and no shirt came knocking.

It’s not clear why he was there, as there was no police report made of the brief encounter.

But the bar-wielding aggressor was greeted at the door by a rude surprise: a man gripping what looked like a small samurai-style sword.

The shirtless man was not deterred, crouching into a defensive position as he waved his crude club.

The sword-carrying man, meanwhile, used the door like a shield as both combatants swung at each other during the fight, which lasted about 15 minutes.

It wasn’t clear to witnesses what the fight was about, but the shirtless man scampered off after he was cut on the arm. Witnesses said he vowed to return.

Neither man seemed to be seriously hurt.

Why it’s good to keep a sword behind the counter…

Click the link for vid.

Video: Sword-wielding robber meets match when cashier also has sword
By Ken Haddad - Social Media Producer
Posted: 11:11 AM, August 24, 2016
Updated: 11:11 AM, August 24, 2016

A sword-wielding robber was caught off guard when the cashier also happened to have a sword.

A Pittsburgh cashier fought off the robbers, who eventually ran away after seeing his sword, according to WPXI.

Police said the robber went behind the counter a pulled out a knife that was more than one foot long. That’s when the cashier pulled out his own sword to defend himself.

“He had a sword, so he just removed the sword and attacked him. Then when he hit the sword that the dude had in his hand – my brother hit the sword – he ran away,” said the brother of the cashier.

[QUOTE=GeneChing;1295660]Click the link for vid.[/QUOTE]

That reminds me… my dad used to keep a big chef’s knife under the counter at our grocery store.

Most of the time it was used for trimming produce. But a few times he had to chase shoplifters out of the store with it when they refused to leave.

Jack Churchill never went into battle without a sword. He thought it unbecoming of a soldier to not use one.

ttt 4 2017!

This is redundant to last year’s post, but it’s a better pic of the sword blade.

Swordfight after man robs shop with sword – but shopkeeper pulls out huge scimitar
Rob Waugh for Metro.co.uk Monday 22 Aug 2016 8:38 am


Picture: KDKA
A sword-wielding robber found himself fighting for his life after a shopkeeper pulled out a massive scimitar and fought back.

The shopkeeper in Perry Market in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, was faced with the would-be robbers who had foot-long knives.

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One aimed it at a customer while the second jumped behind the counter and threatened the clerk, demanding cash. But he refused to give in, instead taking out his own, much bigger sword.

It’s not clear if he uttered Crocodile Dundee’s famous words ‘that’s not a knife, that’s a knife’.

The shopkeeper’s brother, M C Hydare said, ‘He hit the sword that the dude had in his hand – my brother hit the sword – he ran away.

‘I just want to give a message to them: Don’t try this. You can have money in a better way. Not this. Please stay away. Go and find work somewhere.’

Oh Canada

Good to know…

It’s now no longer illegal to challenge someone to a duel in Canada


Image: Victor Moussa / Shutterstock

Eric Zimmer Jun 07, 2017 2:50 pm

If you demand satisfaction and need to settle a score in the form of a good old-fashioned duel, a recent decision by the Canadian government may be of welcome news.

This week, the Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada, Jody Wilson-Raybould, introduced legislation meant to update and modernize the criminal justice system.

The proposed legislation “would amend or repeal a number of provisions in the Criminal Code in order to ensure they are compliant with the Charter, and to make the law more relevant in our modern society,” a government release said. “Several Criminal Code offences that were enacted many years ago… are no longer relevant or required today.”

Among the changes? Challenging someone to a duel.

It’s safe to say this is a timely update to the code and that “many years” might be an understatement.

While duel challenges were issued infrequently during Canada’s early settlement years, historical records show that the last duel where someone died was in 1838, in what is now the province of Quebec. However, the total number of duelling incidents in what eventually became Canada only numbered around 300 between the mid 1600’s and 1948.

Duelling wasn’t the only oddball amendment to Canada’s criminal justice system. Some of the other repealed Criminal Code offences include:

Advertising a reward for the return of stolen property “no questions asked” (section 143);
Possessing, printing, distributing or publishing crime comics (paragraph 163(1)(b));
Publishing blasphemous libel (section 296);
Fraudulently pretending to practise witchcraft (section 365); and,
Issuing trading stamps (section 427).

Now, in no way are we condoning any sort of violence against others, but if you find yourself at the receiving end of a glove slap, don’t say we didn’t warn you.

Texas House Bill 1935

Will we hear more on this thread from Texas after September? Get your swords here, Texans!

Texas Drops Its Knife Restrictions. Prepare to Carry a Sword!
WEDNESDAY, JULY 5, 2017 AT 5 A.M. BY CHRIS LANE

Of all the tools humans use, knives might be the most basic. For a long time Texas had many restrictions on what a citizen could legally carry, but in recent years the laws governing knives have been much less strict. In 2013 it became legal to possess a switchblade, and in 2015 a law was passed that removed all local knife ordinances more restrictive than Texas state law.

Recently, House Bill 1935 was signed into law, making it legal to carry pretty much any edged weapon (or tool, depending on who you ask) a person wants. It removes dirks, stilettos, daggers, swords, spears, poniards and Bowie knives from Texas statute, with only a small amendment added to prevent such items from being carried in places like bars and colleges.

This is a major victory for fans of knives, particularly those that are more…“exotic”…(I’ve always wanted to carry a poniard around like a renaissance duelist), and a pointy blow to anyone who gets nervous when a guy walks by carrying a broadsword. So what kind of “knives” can one easily carry come September 1, when the new law goes into effect? I headed down to a local sporting goods store to see.


Photo by Chris Lane

  1. Machetes!
    Whether you want a huge knife to clear grass and jungle brush, or you’re Jason Voorhees and need something to chop off camp counselors’ heads, nothing fits the task like a machete. Fortunately, with the passing of H.B. 1935, there’s nothing keeping a person from sensibly strapping one to his leg before heading to the grocery store. They come in a bewildering variety of styles, and for some reason, most of the ones for sale at Academy seem to be “tactical” black. There was even one shaped kinda like a Roman gladius, with a centurion on the package. It was black, for that added Roman tactical edge one might need…for something.

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  1. Swords!
    Hell, yes. Now you’re talking. In September, prepare to see wannabe ninjas, RenFest warriors and well-armed dungeon masters leaving their houses with a sword or two strapped to their side. Texas is a badass state, teeming with people who want the world to know they’re badasses, and what better way to accomplish that than by taking your katana along while you run your daily errands?


“Bad to the Bone”
Photo by Chris Lane

  1. Spears!
    I found only a single spear for sale at Academy, but it was a good one. The “Talon M48 Survival Spear” says it’s “Bad to the Bone” right there on the package, so it’s a good bet that it’ll prevail in any melee on the mean streets of Houston…unless the other guy has a gun, of course. But a spear! What could be more primal than that? And readily available at Academy. Convenience!


Photo by Chris lane


Photo by Chris Lane

  1. Bowie Knives!
    For years the knife associated with Jim Bowie was illegal for Texans to carry openly in the state he fought for. While Bowie knives were never legally defined, they were ambiguously listed with knives that were legal to carry. No longer! Now Texans can take their 14-inch Bowies almost anywhere they want to, honoring one of the fathers of the Texas Revolution while scaring almost everyone else around them.

How many folks will do the old Crocodile Dundee “That’s not a knife. This is a knife” routine? Will there be a new form of etiquette established once people are free to walk into a McDonald’s carrying their survival spear? There was a time when seeing a gun rack in a pickup truck was relatively normal. Will we see guys with their tactical gladius displayed in a window rack soon? Inquiring minds want to know. And what of the more humble pocket knives that many of us carry? Will they be abandoned, discarded in favor of swords or machetes? In September, Texas will definitely become a sharper, more edgy place.

Chris Lane
Chris Lane is a contributing writer who enjoys covering art, music, pop culture, and social issues.

I have always carried a folding knife, either my Emerson or my Spydrco.
I think I may upgrade to a spear !

I also always carry a folder (except in certain restricted areas like airports, sporting events, etc). Either a Spyderco or a Chris Reeve Knives folder. I find uses for them every day.

TBH, I wouldn’t buy or carry any of the stuff by Gerber, United Cutlery, Winchester, etc., which are generally known to be very low quality. United is best known for reproductions of gaudy fantasy/movie swords meant for display.

In Taipei, I used to carry a long spear around when I was practicing it a lot. My second northern teacher did not teach in a building. When walking around with it, I had a safety cover I made for it over the chrome metal spear head for safety, and to look less intimidating. I probably looked like a doofus carrying it around. I sure felt like one, though no one ever hassled me about it, not even the cops. It was clearly a training weapon. Believe me, it isn’t worth the inconvenience, not even in fun. My long spear is 6 feet, five inches long. Walking in and out of stores and banks, on and off buses, storing it in a corner or under the table (if the table was long enough) at restaurants, walking under low overhangs, you name it.

Of course, that was back in the '80s to early '90s. Nowadays, with all the news of terrorism and resulting new laws seemingly everywhere, I doubt you could walk around even in Taipei carrying a practice spear anymore without drawing undue attention.

I’m with you guys. I always carry a folder too. I feel nekkid without it.

I used to go to Renn Faires, just to carry a sword. You don’t really get to experience that unless you practice iaido and it gives you a whole new perspective on swords. Renn Faires require that you tie your sword into sheath, but who doesn’t know how to tie a slipknot?

Houston martial arts school embraces Texas’ new sword law
Fernando Alfonso III Updated 2:13 pm, Wednesday, July 12, 2017



Photo: Sword To Sword
Sword To Sword is a Houston martial arts school that’s been open for 16 years.

A Houston martial arts instructor hopes a new Texas law allowing people to carry large blades in public won’t get abused.
Sword To Sword’s lead instructor Dakao Do is optimistic about House Bill 1935, which was just signed into law by Gov. Greg Abbott. The law goes into effect Sept. 1 and allows people over the age of 18 to carry blades longer than 5 1/2 inches in public.
“The most relevant lesson for the general public is that, as with any firearms or other weapons, proper training and mindset far outweigh the ‘cool’ factor of openly carrying a gun or sword in ignorance of its proper use,” Do said.
Sword To Sword began as a training group for European martial arts 16 years ago. It offers martial arts classes on long sword, rapier, and other medieval and Renaissance weapons.
The knife bill was authored and filed by Rep. John Frullo, R-Lubbock, in February to bipartisan support. In May, the bill stalled momentarily after a University of Texas student stabbed multiple classmates on campus. Student Harrison Brown was killed in the stabbing and three others were injured. Student Kendrex White was arrested in connection to the attack.
White was charged with murder and is being held in the Travis County jail. His bail is set at $1 million, according to the jail’s inmate search.
READ MORE: House delays debate on knife bill days after stabbing at UT
A week after the stabbing, Rep. Harold Dutton Jr., D-Houston, introduced an amendment to the bill that restricted knives with a 5 1/2 inch blade from schools, bars, sporting events and churches, among other locations. The blade White used in his attack was a Bowie Knife, a large hunting knife that falls under the “location-restricted knife” category.
The amended bill was signed by Abbott on June 15.

There’s a lot of Shaolin monks in Houston.

If this keeps up, we might need an indie thread for this topic.