As a praying mantis practioner, do you know how to fight with A WING CHUN FIGHTER?
attack the side and back doors while using angular or circular deceptive footwork and never attack them from the front.
facing wing chun
Some moves work very well against Wing Chun, such as whipping fists and fast round house punches. Slip palm/finger strikes are Ok too. Low kicks work well, especially groin snap kicks, kicks to the knee, these are great when you combine them the hand strikes above.
There are some moves that dont work against an experenced WC guy these are, double intercepts (they are quick to step in and punch over the top) and airborne or roundhouse kicks (they are well used to stopping these).
WC is excellent in a straight line towards you and you have to be quick to get around them. I also find the seven star step and sweeping the WC shuffle towards you(ie catch the front leg with a quick circular sweep of your front foot ) can catch them off guard.
I have been lucky in that a school I train and teach at teaches both 7 star and WC so I get to train against good WC guys. Its a direct and effective style to fight against, but you can get around it just dont try and take them on at close quarters as thats where the Wing Chun style is frighteningly effective.
I hope these comments help.
Earth Dragon,
–attack the side
Then you would have given up your own space. Is this a good idea to fight against wing chun? - RH
AL,
–whipping fists and fast round house punches
Efficiency is the dominant idea in wing chun combat. Then, how could whipping fists and the round house punches against the wing chun centerline punches??? - RH
I use the whipping fists typically after catching an incoming left with my left then dragging the WC guy off his centre line and send the right and whipping fist in hard and fast (step in with the right foot as you do so)the move is from 7* whirlwind boxing . The roundhouse punch tends to follow a swift low kick, I send the roundhouse punch straight to begin with then hook it at the last moment into the temple area. I accept the point that if you go too wide with these move your much slower and will get a smack in the mouth for your efforts. These work for me, smaller and lighter mantis guys may be better using Earth Dragons footwork to get around the problem but either way its a great style to spar against.
–catching an incoming left with my left then…
How and what techniques do you apply??
Strange to say, there’s a problem go against wing chun. Its like too many holes on the swiss cheese.
rolling hand
not sure what you mean by my own space?
WC is a straight forward lineare stlye, attacking the side and back doors works rather well against such styles. when they defend or attack they usually leave themselves open to circular steps away from the centerline.
–Your own space
This is the area where you need to protect in combat, in other words, the wing chun gates. - RH
our systm of praying mantis creates space. i,e attacking left to open the right and so on, so it doesnt matter whos space it is for you can create and opening by reversing the way of the tao
Rolling Hand –
You’ve mentioned “giving up your own space” in a couple different WC conversations. Are you confusing flanking with retreating? Or is there a larger stratigem at work there that I’m unaware of?
I study bagua, and we never “hold our ground”. We don’t retreat from an attack, but rather we move to the side or rear gates and stick very close to our opponent. Does that conflict with what you view to be proper fighting doctrine?
Thanks
Wing Chun has very limited footwork. That’s probably the most exploitable weakness in the system, therefore, attack the legs vigorously and often. Many WC guys will scoff and tell you that they’ll just apply a stop-kick but we mantids know better.
A low kick is extremely fast and powerful. It requires superb timing, superior speed, incredible balance, a sixth sense (you need to know that your opponent is going to kick low at least a second before he does), and lots of luck to successfully counter a low kick. If you’ve done any real fighting, or even some casual point sparring, you know that these elements rarely come together.
1.Use Shao Twei to cut his ankles and achilles tendons
2. Roundhouse kicks to the inside and outside of his knees and thighs
3. front heel kicks to his shins and kneecaps
4. Sidekicks to his ankles and knees
5. stomp his toes into the ground
It’s much easier to perform an action than it is to react to that action. Be aggressive. Bring the fight to him and attack him from the side and rear as others have suggested. You will dominate your opponent. 
“Master, here is a stick. Please beat me for my insolence.” - KC Elbows
Waiden
–Are you confusing flanking with retreating?
Not in my book! - RH
–move to the side
Why did you run away if you know how to deal with your opponent? - RH
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=“-1”>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rolling_Hand:
–Are you confusing flanking with retreating?
Not in my book! - RH
–move to the side
Why did you run away if you know how to deal with your opponent? - RH[/quote]
I’m not sure I get the “Not in my book” line.
Who’s running away? Why would I play into a WC fighter’s strength by standing in front of him when I can step to his side/rear and maximize my own attack?
Or perhaps this is a really half-arsed troll thread. Who’s to say?
Waidan
–Who’s running away?
–step to his side…
–half-arsed troll thread
Rethink the tactic…
Focus on the role you have to play and not on personal feelings. --RH
I’m confused too Rolling, could you please explain what you meant by “giving up your own space”? I am interested in the tactics you would use personally. 
Also, how do you think you might attack a mantis fighter? Are you familiar with our system? What weaknesses might you attempt to exploit?
“Master, here is a stick. Please beat me for my insolence.” - KC Elbows
Scaretmantis
–in the tactics you would use personally
Wing Chun gates is like a full cup of tea, no more can be added to it in term of space. From a technical standpoint, all movement has to be efficient use of the 6 gates of offense and defense universal to human combat. - RH
Many WC guys don’t know how to FREE fight. I mean non sticking at medium range. Use fakes etc. Basically fight him like a boxer…a mantis boxer.
Cha Kuen
Please tell me more… how would you go aganist wing chun boxing??
Wing Chun footwork
ScarletMantis,
You say that Wing Chun has no footwork. Generalization can compromise your fighting strategy. My ex-wife taught me Chat Sing Tong Long. I studied Juk Lum Tong Long. There is a Tai Gik Tong Long, and at least a couple more Tong Long styles/versions. All with some different fighting strategies. Does your Tong Long have 3 step arrow? See where I’m going? You weren’t completely wrong. There are some Wing Chun styles that have limited footwook. It would benefit you to look into it more.
Peace,
PR
PRedmond
P Redmond,
I didn’t say that Wing Chun has no footwork, I said it had limited footwork. The Wing Chun fighters I have squared off with wern’t very mobile in comparison with the systems I have studied. I stand by my advice and opinion because they have been born out in actual combat.
Rolling,
Your explanation is obtuse. I was hoping for detail, and got a fortune cookie quote instead. 
I’m still interested in any waeknesses you may see with NPM.
“Master, here is a stick. Please beat me for my insolence.” - KC Elbows