ScarletMantis,
I stand corrected. You did say limited footwork. I agree. But I am a TWC practioner. We have footwork unlike the other WC styles. And I have used it in actual combat on a number of occasions.
PRedmond
www.wingchunkwoon.com
RH-
My answer/querry has nothing to do with personal feelings. I’m honestly curious as to exactly what you are proposing (in reference to “not giving up your own space”)…however your fortune-cookie responses are disappointing, and lead me to believe you’re just having some fun rather than searching for actual answers.
Do it, dude. Bust out a paragraph of plain English and express why it is so important to maintain your ground when fighting.
wing chun and PM
I’ll post my thoughts and questions on the WC board to get a WC response,
Scarletmantis
–obtuse/detail
That’s the WCK asking-hand. You do require to take wing chun 101 to understand this intricate system. At this moment, it’s better to go along with the general drift and avoid specifics. Though progress will be slow but you’ll reach clarity.
Waidan
–Why it is so important to maintain your ground when fighting?
It maybe strange to say, " Where’s your balance? " - RH
I’m a WC guy
who has “thouched hands” with Mantis people. As one of the mantis guys came over to our forum, I tought to return the favor. Cross system communiction is what this place is all about after all.
Scarlet Mantis Most of the low kicks you descibe we do train to deal with. Its not “easy” by a longshot, and it involves getting VERY close to your opponent.
Playing with the Mantis people at my school has really helped to sharpen my footwork skills (limited as they may be) to the point where I feel fairly mobile.
I was going to give you all some tips for fighting against WC but then I realized how incredibly dumb that would be 
so you all lose 
whew I almost told you all about our secret techniques :rolleyes:
oddermensch
–secret techniques
What are they?
Anybody have any success with this?
A kick that I’ve just started trying and find works pretty well against the WC guys I get to play with is a mid level wheel kick (aka spinning heel kick) applied from their 2-3- or 9-10 o’clock positions. The hard part is hitting the angle and executing it before they pivot and catch the leg, but even then sometimes the “weight” of the kick knocks them back.
Signed,
Rogue, Soke and Senior Grandmaster of Southeast American Brazillian Bagua Combat Chi jitsu Kempo Karate Do and Choral Society. (We are not affiliated with Southeast American Brazillian Bagua Jujitsu Kempo Karate Concepts, or Wan King Fist Kung Fu)
“Americans don’t have the courage to come here,” Mullah Mohammed Omar, leader of the Taliban
[I]
There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change; it is, 'To use the means at hand to inflict the maximum
Rogue
–works pretty well against the WC guys…
Fearful when the sky was full of thunder, the painted ponies go up and down.
Are you exploiting a rivalry in order to win someone over to your side? - RH
Oddermensch,
Yes, I expect that a WC fighter will be trying to get in “VERY close”, your system emphasizes infighting tactics. This is precisly why I have used long range kicks to my opponent’s legs when I have faced WC stylists.
Personally, I feel most comfortable fighting in the infighting to grappling range, but why would I close to YOUR comfort zone unless it was on my terms?
Rogue,
What areas do you target with that wheel kick, and under what circumstances would you apply that tactic? Thanks in advance!
Rolling,
Wise man say; “Why bother speaking if you have nothing to say?” :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
“Master, here is a stick. Please beat me for my insolence.” - KC Elbows
Siu Baat Kua footworks of Fut Sao Wing Chun
Fut Sao Wing Chun Kuen has extensive footworks within all it’s forms including Siu Lin Tao. Siu Baat Kua “Little Octqagon” form shows highly advanced evassive footworks and circular hands exclusive to Fut Sao Wing Chun. www.buddhapalm.com Check out James Cama’s site.
Scarletmantis,
I’ve just started playing with it and I’ve only used it against one sparring partner who does WC and some fellow TKD practitioners. Targeting is to the stomach or solar plexus since I’m trying to slip it between his hands and legs to avoid getting leg checked or trapped. It’s worked better when he’s moving in but when I still had time to move off line. Right now I believe that I’ve pulled this off due to my friend being unfamiliar with the technique and being caught by surprise.
Some things that I have noticed about the technique are the heel is that even a partially commited hit with the heel to the stomach is effective, which also makes it hard to practice unless your partner is wearing a chest protector. Also since you are hitting with the meaty part of the leg and not the shin checks don’t hurt as much.
Bad things are you have to commit fully to the kick which doesn’t leave any room for messing up. Also it has lots of moving parts, since to kick with my left leg I have to pivot to my left, make sure I’m outside far enough, plant and then pivot on the right foot and deliver the kick. It takes less than a second but so does rushing in and getting shoved.
It’s a fun one to play with but personally I’d hesitate to use it for real, maybe a better kicker than myself could pull it off on a consistant basis.
Signed,
Rogue, Soke and Senior Grandmaster of Southeast American Brazillian Bagua Combat Chi jitsu Kempo Karate Do and Choral Society. (We are not affiliated with Southeast American Brazillian Bagua Jujitsu Kempo Karate Concepts, or Wan King Fist Kung Fu)
“Americans don’t have the courage to come here,” Mullah Mohammed Omar, leader of the Taliban
[I]
There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change; it is, 'To use the means at hand to inflict the maximum
Scareletmantis
–Wise man say: " Why bother speaking if you have nothing to say? "
Have you ever heard of fighting without fighting?
In other words, know yourself don’t show yourself. -RH