Sort of an inwards side swipe with the fist closed (or maybe part closed) - I am guessing here but would it be to allow a knuckle (hard) strike from a position where one would not otherwise be possible without first drawing back the hand or putting the elbow out - ie your arm is partly extended and to the side of the opponents head ??
I am sure yuenfen can tell you more authoritatively than I.
black and blue sez(response in brackets)
Lead hurts too!
((Arent we more aware of the dangers of lead poisoning?
Why wait for lead to fall on you??))
What are the target areas on an opponent when using the GF?
(The body is full of cavities and pressure points…but it is hard to get to them with stiff muscled moves and karate- Dilman type–
though those Dilman guys can look great if you just stand there and let them do it to to you. Ouch))))
Could you give an example of its application (beginners like me always need an example )
((Trick questing huh? If I slip your jab- I may visit your arm pit if I am ****ed enough to overlook the BO. But dont forget- technique is not enough- you have to have good kung fu))
Yuanfen-stuff happens
Yuanfen
So! You’re saying I have bad BO? If you didn’t live so far away and if my Wing Chun wasn’t so poor… I’d show you that BO in person, Oh Yes!!!
I’m training tonight - will ask my Sifu about the GF and the PE. If he demos on me I may never post here again 
black and blue
I didnt say that- but secret weapons can come in strangely handy.
Surprise is important in combat…and if it has to be your BO- well as a prolific but not too insightful poster once said- you gotta do what you gotta do…
yuanfen
Re: Ish sez
Originally posted by yuanfen
[B]I was told at a sam kwok seminar that ip man didn’t teach it when in hong kong,
How would Sam Kwok know that. Was he present in all occasions when Yip Man taught?
yuanfen [/B]
Given that Sifu Kwok has repressented both Ip Chun and Ip Ching, I think he is in a pretty good position to know. I attended an Ip Chun seminar where he (ip chun) also stated this. He also siad that his father thought it was too dangerous to teach
a phoenix eye punch is too dangerous to teach, however biu’s to the eyes are not?
for some reason that whole “too dangerous to teach” thing doesnt ever sit right with me
however im probably just talking out my ass 
i have nothing but respect for ip chun or sameul kwok
but that line still doesnt do anything for me!
peace
travis
My point remains. Yip Man did various things at various times.
No one but YM was present all those times. One can speculate, conjecture, have an opinion but a comprehensive description of evruthing that YM did is
not logically possible. He did teach some things to some people selectvely.Atleast there are some clear resulting sensible transmissions
not imported from somewhere else that are there. Of course
the sons can report what their father said- so can others report things when the sons were not there. Ultimately- you make your own judgement on things.
Ever see Ras****n(sp?) -the Kurosawa(?) film classic?
Sorry for typos.Not intended asa put down of Kwok or Yip Chun or Yip Ching.
Rasfukn?
Rasshtn?
Rascu*tn?
Yuanfen,
Those German movies of yours should not be discussed on this forum.
What? Stupid censoring! One of the greatest movies got censored- at least its name did. Toshiro Mifune is in it- classic
dramatization of the unreliabilty of “observation”…the eye of the beholder… about a bandit accused of raping a woman.
In a way it reminds me of the story of the nine blind men and describing an elephant… some of our discussions of wing chun is that way…
wing chun is:
soft
hard
neither
both
you can use it in the UFC
no you cant
supplement it with bjj, weight training
no if you do enough wc- important functions are in there
center line , no central line
pigeon toe, no pigeon toe
I think the elephant just had a bm.
No it didnt- it is pre birth chi