so, my friend who mainly does Kempo (the one I was boxing with to help him get ready for a toughman but then he tore his achilles) came by saturday with a couple of students. My friend is still recovering from surgury but we did roll for about 30 minutes.
One of his students I’ve met and sparred before, he’s tall and skinny and is training muay thai. The other one is 19, about 6’ and 190…mostly muscle…and has just been training for a few months, also thai.
I’ve never been kicked in the head as hard as this kid kicked me…totally by reflex did I catch it and sweep his back leg and passed to a side mount, but my head is SORE!
He also wore the hell out of my right leg with thigh kicks and I also think I have at least cracked a bone in the foot trying to check his kicks…stupid me didn’t put shin pads on. :o
i’m just going to have to stop going full on with young bucks half my age. it was fun and I look forward to being a part of this kids martial upbringing but I’m going to be laid up w/ no exercise for a week at least.
it was a good day of sparring at the school. my students got to mix it up with some different folks and held there own well enough. I just need me a Redman suit
Ya know, thats another reason I don’t spar full contact anymore. I sparred a few months back with a red belt at my current school. Here’s the list of injuries after 4 rds of 2mins ea.
re injure my patellar tendonitis on both knees.
jammed my thumb
headache due to getting hit in the head
bruise on left thigh
biggest injury of all, MY EGO
So from now on, I am just gonna talk about my past accomplishments. I can’t even do forms properly now cause of my knees.
Sux being old.
Oso, just put some Jow on it. There are days I take a bath in the stuff.
Injuries suck but there to be expected within a certain framework…anything past that framework should make you consider where you are training, your training partners or your own limits.
Not saying this about you at all Oso, everyone gets nailed in sparring no matter what rank or experiance, anyone that says different is full of sh!t.
I see yet another change in my training in the near future. Right now I’m trying to find the right balance of contact to keep my skills but not training it too much that I spend weeks healing. For now I’m going to start using more padding.
You guys probably need to train more and smarter. Hard contact sparring will leave you banged up but it is necessary and to incur so many injuries seems like you aren’t doing something right.
That said, the last time I sparred, in April, I tore all the lateral ligaments in my ankle…shrugged it off, and went six more rounds before calling it a day. The next day was awful! Lesson learned, if you do get something pretty banged up, call er for the day and nurse the injury instead of machoing through it…although I did prove something to myself, and my friends apparently, about getting hurt and pushing through it.
[QUOTE=WinterPalm;775055]You guys probably need to train more and smarter. Hard contact sparring will leave you banged up but it is necessary and to incur so many injuries seems like you aren’t doing something right.
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Yeah like taking 12+yrs off from martial arts then coming back @39yo and thinking I am still 25yo with all the flexibility and speed. My mind remembers the moves, my body just doesn’t cooperate. And my body now heals at a pace of a snail going up hill.
Wait till you get to 48 and the real fun begins. :eek:
When people tell me that Grand Master X is over 75 and still able to do everything he did at 20 because of his training, I then ask about what happened to his classmates who received the same training. Then I have to duck because of the excuses of why those classmates are bent over old men who can barely shuffle across the floor.
[QUOTE=Black Jack II;775043]Injuries suck but there to be expected within a certain framework…anything past that framework should make you consider where you are training, your training partners or your own limits.
[B]the big mistake was me not wearing shin guards or head gear. we were only supposed to be going ‘medium’ but he had no control over his round kick, it was either on or off. I could have called a stop to talk about it but it wasn’t bothering me that much, he didn’t hit me anywhere but the leg and the one shot to the head.
he hasn’t sparred much as I understand it, so control and ‘courtesy’ (like when he realizes he’s pounding some poor old guy’s leg to pulp ) will come with time. He wasn’t malicious at all…very nervous in fact…a good kid that will go as far as he wants to in this.
…limits…yea, that’s mostly what this post was about…in another year this kid will definitely be more than good enough to take me in a competitive fight…but I can’t let go yet
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Not saying this about you at all Oso, everyone gets nailed in sparring no matter what rank or experiance, anyone that says different is full of sh!t.[/QUOTE]
Bro, when it comes to injuries there is only one that really bothers me and its not the newb’s, who as we all know carry there weight of problems in the gym intell they get the correct down.
It’s those bizzare newbs or even medium year players who are born again retarded. I know it sounds mean but there is a certain class of student, a certain archtype, who for some odd reason is so off the rocker that the word control is something only related to not getting pregnant.
You know…the student who always cranks on the armbars like he is trying to break a virgin in…yet when you tell him/her to go easy, they say oh god, so sorry, but over and over and over again, the bizzare spastic keeps reaching for the moon.
Jerky, power spastic, always going way off the the marker for the move, does not seem to listen even though you see him or her looking at you, just really, really bizzare.
and lets not even talk about how certain cops can be in training, I have met a few who are so ignorant of others injuries that its borderline torture, or just so ignornat it floats back down to the bizzare newb at.
LOL… the more I teach, the more I see guys like that (no concept of control despite a bit of experience). I’ve found that making your blocks into striking blocks makes them learn how to pull their techniques a bit, if only so they aren’t injured themselves Amazing how a bit of pain helps as a learning aid
when people don’t have control-“Ohh, man, sorry, I don’t know my own strength” -bullsh!t
a mother crocodile has jaws that can crush through a two by four, and yet she carries her young in her jaws-and has a brain the size of a fukin walnut.
so what are ya sayin…?
If you really had no control, when you ate, you would slam the fork though your throat. If you had an eyelash in yuor eye, you would thrust your finger knuckle deep trying to get it out. (and you can forget about slammin the ham..
This isn’t a lack of physical control, it’s a lack of mental/emotional control-ego.
There are no excuses.
As far as keeping up contact training when you get older-I’m approaching the hald century mark next week (7-11) and I still like to play hard, but I am learning not to play stupid…I think.
(then again, two weeks ago, I was going at it with a training bro-6’-4" 280 lbs, godan in Goju,and he caught me right in the forehead with an elbow. If it was an inch lower, he would have crushed my nose like a beer can. Still have the lump.
I think I may have dain bramage…)
My mind remembers the moves, my body just doesn’t cooperate. And my body now heals at a pace of a snail going up hill.