one of the better wing chun clips on youtube

Wai Jia: The Kung Fu Forum Wing Chun
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Couch Potato!!!

[QUOTE=t_niehoff;888706]Yes, and that’s the really, really sad part: if someone comes here looking for genuine information about WCK and/or training :)[/QUOTE]

THIS is actually the sad part because its obvious none of you are getting this info from your Sifus.:frowning:

[QUOTE=couch;888718]You know, it’s funny. When I started in WC and jumped on this board I started to notice this theory vs. practical camp stuff happening. I thought it was silly and I just couldn’t understand why people couldn’t just get along…LOL. [/QUOTE]

All you need to do is to pull any of the posts in this thread by Unkokusai and you will see clearly why people cant just get along. You did the same thing in the Footwork/Retreat thread, Mr. Flight-Instead-Of-Fight, so, dont act like you are not aware of your own BS. By the way, how is the science of the flanking step comming along?

[QUOTE=couch;888718] You can totally tell who’s not putting in the work, researching RBSD, etc, etc. [/QUOTE]
Well we can actually see who is practicing some WC. Funny thing is I havent seen any proof of knowledge or practice of WC from you, terrence, unko or any of the other aforementioned blowhards.

[QUOTE=couch;888718] But it’s about ego. It’s about not wanting to step out of the comfort zone to have your butt handed to you by a BJJ player (or whomever) and then have a wake-up call. [/QUOTE]

Funny thing isthere used to be a grappling group at our school. They stopped when Sifu Ali brought in the Woo Fai Ching System. Also as much as anyone we have given our thought publicly about grappling and any other art. But for some reason these so called logical fighters have never shown up to test their glorified kickboxing, grappling, wrestling bouillabaisse on me or any of the other students at our kwoon. I wonder why that is? :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=couch;888718] All of a sudden because of differing views I get placed in the category that has been assigned to t_neihoff, sanjuro, anerlich, etc, etc[/QUOTE]

So even you recognize that you are an @$$ among @$$&$. :eek:

[QUOTE=couch;888718] At least these “kickboxer-extraordinaires” are putting in the time and really thinking LOGICALLY about how Wing Chun works in a combat situation. Not in a time where you can gather all your Dan Tien’s energy and then blast it out at your opponent! [/QUOTE]

And we know this how? (See the Quote/response about the Pseudo- Bouillabaisse you guys practice.)

[QUOTE=couch;888718]
So. I’m on part with T’s post here. And I’m done with this thread for now. Sheesh. I can’t even sift through it to find where my last post was [/QUOTE]

Thats because your posts are not worth reading as you never contribute anything of value.

[QUOTE=couch;888718] What a waste.[/QUOTE]

At least we agree on something.

A Salaamu Alaikum, sofa-man! :stuck_out_tongue:

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[QUOTE=Graychuan;888752]Funny thing isthere used to be a grappling group at our school. They stopped when Sifu Ali brought in the Woo Fai Ching System.
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Sorry Chris, I did what did; because they were simply in my way, with that rolling around on the ground crap, and I simply needed more space, and there will always be knuckleheads running into a wing chun brick wall;)

Ali Rahim.

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[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;888670]in the mist of crap, you get this gem, which will probably be over looked.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. :wink:

Still, getting back on subject, has anyone seen this cip before?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mo67yFiAzHs
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oIuUeu2B3qA&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aBEoslpEN1o&feature=related

Not sugesting they’re the best, but at least the 1st clip is trying to show Wing Chun in a competitive environment. There are other clips I was trying to find which are little more skilled and ‘oldskool’ but these will do for now. I do like the old ‘LeiTai’ setting!

These type of comps were very popular in the UK during the eighties and it’s good to see some kind of revival. I personally hope Alan Orr returns to Seni with a comp more like this one…

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[QUOTE=Graychuan;888752]

So even you recognize that you are an @$$ among @$$&$. :eek:

A Salaamu Alaikum, sofa-man! :p[/QUOTE]

Classy dude, these go together really well by the way.

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[QUOTE=Ali. R;888776]Sorry ‘Chris’, I did what did; because they were simply in my way, with that rolling around on the ground crap, and I simply needed more space, and there will always be knuckleheads running into a wing chun brick wall…:wink:

Ali Rahim.[/QUOTE]

I’ve seen your clips on your youtube chanel, good stuff, but outside your Chi Sao match up, I don’t see any fighting ones ( not that the chi sao one was fighting) or any VS grappling, will you be putting any up soon?

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[QUOTE=Graychuan;888752]
All you need to do is to pull any of the posts in this thread by Unkokusai and you will see clearly why people can’t just get along. [/QUOTE]

Even the ones where I tried to discuss the topic but got nothing but more of the “Stay out of our clubhouse!” nonsense? How about the ones where I posted a vid for discussion and was met with nipple jokes from the great ‘real kungfu men’? And of course the ever popular accusations of racist from out of the blue!

Yeah, everything is everyone else’s fault. Why can’t people let you great masters just agree with yourselves in peace? That seems to be the basic premise of WC anyway.

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[QUOTE=LoneTiger108;888787]Agreed. :wink:

Still, getting back on subject, has anyone seen this cip before?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mo67yFiAzHs
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oIuUeu2B3qA&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aBEoslpEN1o&feature=related

Not sugesting they’re the best, but at least the 1st clip is trying to show Wing Chun in a competitive environment. There are other clips I was trying to find which are little more skilled and ‘oldskool’ but these will do for now. I do like the old ‘LeiTai’ setting!

These type of comps were very popular in the UK during the eighties and it’s good to see some kind of revival. I personally hope Alan Orr returns to Seni with a comp more like this one…[/QUOTE]

Sorry dude that was horrible, this is why so many people discount wing chun as a good fighting art If I wasnt a wing chun practitioner, I would totally be running away from the system as a hold, or even kung fu

With that clip and marking it as really good; you all by yourself, make everyones case thats against the tradition ideals, and if thats what good wing chun should look like, then I quit

Ali Rahim.

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[QUOTE=unkokusai;888792]Yeah, everything is everyone else’s fault. Why can’t people let you great masters just agree with yourselves in peace? That seems to be the basic premise of WC anyway.[/QUOTE]

I feel you, and agree with you… Again I would like to apologize…

Ali Rahim.

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[QUOTE=couch;888718]You know, it’s funny. When I started in WC and jumped on this board I started to notice this theory vs. practical camp stuff happening. I thought it was silly and I just couldn’t understand why people couldn’t just get along…LOL.[/quote]
And that is your first misunderstanding of Wing Chun or kung fu in general. All tradtitional kung fu training is in the “practical camp” as you put it. It is meant for fighting!

That may be due to some sexual confusion relating to the hours of rolling around unecessarilly on the ground with their man-friends.:wink:

Yes can totally tell who is not putting in the work and researching WING CHUN (or indeed KUNG FU) before embarking on a journey of needless crosstraining that sometimes contradicts the principles and concepts of Wing Chun itself. A contradiction whose (negative) significance these knuckleheads don’t seem to fathom.

And one of the best ways to find out is to practise it holisticacaly, the way it was designed to be practised and from a REAL sifu who is willing to teach you and NOT IN YOU LOCAL MMA GYM!

NO, it is about the crosstrainers’ short attention span. They just switch off when things get a little complicated and deep.

It is about not stepping out of your comfort zone before you have acquired the necessary knowledge and skill.

And by the way, how many times have you stepped out of your own comfort zone and have gone to your local China Town to challenge a kung fu sifu to a REAL FIGHT (not a ring fight)?

That is because apparently you are in the same camp as them.

Yes, they are doing all that WITHOUT bothering to study Wing Chun the way it was meant to be studied. That is, without understanding the internals, Iron Palm and other technical aspects including grappling techniques (and yes ground fighting in some lineages) and some of the less common striking methods of this art.

So what they are doing is researching OTHER arts without having first gained an even fundemental understanding of Wing Chun.

To my knowledge no one has discussed chi blasts in this thread. If you think they have, then please tell us where!

See, that is one reason why you are in the same camp as the knuckleheads.

And just when things were getting interesting.:smiley:

You can blame another of this forum’s knuckleheads, unkokusai for that!

Yes, he is.

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that’s why

[QUOTE=Ali. R;888776]that rolling around on the ground crap.[/QUOTE]

… :rolleyes:

Why? Oh why aren’t great masters like you taken seriously outside your own little sewing circles?

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[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;888790]I’ve seen your clips on your youtube chanel, good stuff, but outside your Chi Sao match up, I don’t see any fighting ones ( not that the chi sao one was fighting) or any VS grappling, will you be putting any up soon?[/QUOTE]

I would like to put some up, but it would be a lot of work only to get shot down because I will out class the guy, then it would look like I picked a bum The members here already put their signatures on that one Im screwed if I do and screwed if I dont

It wont prove anything.

Take care,

Ali Rahim.

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[QUOTE=Ali. R;888797]I feel you, and agree with you… Again I would like to apologize…

Ali Rahim.[/QUOTE]

Don’t worry about it.

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[QUOTE=Ali. R;888803]I would like to put some up, but it would be a lot of work only to get shot down because I will out class the guy, then it would look like I picked a bum… [/QUOTE]

It would be easy enough to tell if you did or not from watching the vid. But even that would be better than nothing and the basis of discussion

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[QUOTE=Ali. R;888803]I would like to put some up, but it would be a lot of work only to get shot down because I will out class the guy, then it would look like I picked a bum… The members here already put their signatures on that one… I’m screwed if I do and screwed if I don’t…

It wont prove anything.

Take care,

Ali Rahim.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps, but for those of us that have actually fought, it easy to see what someone is doing right or wrong, even if he is far better than his opponent.
Of course, it is up to you, unfortunately for me, Kentuky is not just around the corner or I would love to come by and see first hand your stuff.

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[QUOTE=Ali. R;888708]t_niehoff

You must be a bedpan, because every time you open your mouth, its makes me wanah take a dump

Ali Rahim.[/QUOTE]

I always figured t_niehoff for a comedian but now I believe he can help a lot of people who suffer from constupation.

Perhaps Cjurakpt can offer him a job in his clinic. They will make a good team for sure with Cjurakpt giving everyone he meets constupation with his unnecessary medical jargon and t_niehoff curing them instantly with his “functional” monologues…LOL!

Seriously though, those two working together can make some serious money!

And if you are reading this cjurakpt and t_niehoff I want my usual 15 percent commission for suggesting the idea.:wink:

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[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;888811]
Of course, it is up to you, unfortunately for me, Kentuky is not just around the corner or I would love to come by and see first hand your stuff.[/quote]

Maybe it is FORTUNATELY for you?

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[QUOTE=unkokusai;888807]It would be easy enough to tell if you did or not from watching the vid. But even that would be better than nothing and the basis of discussion[/QUOTE]

Now let’s try not to switch it around, It was you that put up a clip of a makeshift wing chun guy fighting a grappler and that clip has not proven anything in my book, and like some one said, “they seen my stuff” and said it was good, and I thank you for that…

I’ve ready step up and it was shut down, in which made it a sensitive situation for me… And it would be hard for me to do something just because someone wants to see what I can do, rather then taking it, when I tried to offer it…

Now could someone else step up? I’m sure you wouldn’t have to go through the stipulation as I did before posting a sparring clip.

Ali Rahim.

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[QUOTE=unkokusai;888660]Yes, of course, that’s it. :rolleyes:

Where have we heard that kind of empty excuse before…? Something about some kind of somebody competing in somekind of competition or other… so hard to remember…[/QUOTE]

Don’t worry, just keep on taking your medication and it will all come back to you.

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[QUOTE=HardWork8;888818]Don’t worry, just keep on taking your medication and it will all come back to you.[/QUOTE]

LOL… Oh my goodness, you keep dropping these hammers and they’re falling right on my kidneys, I’ve almost shardid…:slight_smile:

Ali Rahim.

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[QUOTE=Ali. R;888803]I would like to put some up, but it would be a lot of work only to get shot down because I will out class the guy, then it would look like I picked a bum… The members here already put their signatures on that one… I’m screwed if I do and screwed if I don’t…

It wont prove anything. [/QUOTE]

Oh Jesus. Not this bs again. :rolleyes: