One Last Question About Iron Palm and Body

Tiger Hand, I’m 27, been training since I’m 4 and fight at least once a week, used to be three times a week but now I trake a train into Chinatown to train 3 times a week so the schedule has been adjusted.

At 27 I can not touch my teacher. I can physically make contact, but then its over. My teacher insists we train at full power. That means being able to absorb a full power punch.

The latest to challenge my teacher was was a 35 years old Hung Gar player from Taiwan. Fresh off the boat, his friends convinced him that beating my sifu would give him a good name, and he could open a school – American dream. He came, got beat, and is probbaly serving someone some noodles right now.

Also, some Monk from Shoalin (roll my eyes because I think that institution is a joke now and have reasons for it) wanted to open a school in Chinatown two months ago. All the Chinatown sifus got together and my sifu fought him – he’s the official tester and most respected here – and then they wrote their comment down annonamously. I swear that this is the truth.

I never beleived that these “true masters” existed before, but they do, and they are little old men in Chinatown. It took me a hear of searching and kowtowing to others to finally get the intro.

The proof is in the putting. You are more than welcomed to come see for yourself. We pride ourselfs on no BS. My teacher will not even send someone out to fight unless he is 100% of victory, because he has a great name to protect. In his words: “If you are going out to fight, you’re not ready. We just go and beat. You don’t have to fight with a 5 year old, you just beta him. It sould be like that with everyone.”

Hey man, so challenge matches are common in chinatown?
Could you please post some stuff about the ones you seen?

Ginger fist, I do not feel a need to get my facts straight because I have nothing to prove to you, and certainly no one else here. I was pointing out that many styels have very unhealthy practices.

Hung Mei wiping out Bak Mei (well, first I think you watch too many movies) is a legend and no one can prove these facts, though that has little to do with you or me, or the fact that I am not even a Bak Mei player. I picked up the name because at the time I was researching the history of the person and found it interesting.

I am now studying Hsing-I and Ba Gua, that’s what I would consider myself. My teacher has his own system as well, E-chuan, and I know I would roll my eyes to here of another creating there own system, but I know this man and know what he is capable of – with or without weapons.

Hung Mei wiped out Bak Mei:rolleyes:

My master’s challenge matches are conducted behind closed doors. Only his disciple was present and she told me what happened.

I could understand this, because much face is on the line. I am proud of my teacher. Any man that demands you attack with full force, with or without weapons, has my respect – I have never had a teacher that demanded this before. I respect it, because it is real. Everyone of his students have been around the block. There is not holding the hand out while the other does what they want.

We earn and gain each other’s respect daily. Everything is full on.

As for me, I have had 3 challenges in the past 30 days alone – I swear. Probbaly most likely because I am beginiing to abosrb my teachers style somewhat and am more eager to allow it into my life to test.

1 did not show up, the other two I put down most quickly. I put all the success to my teacher, for it is his method. I learned to just lye low. I tested what I needed to test. Poeple can say what they want, claim what they want. I’m at where I want to be right now and am progressing. I can’t fight every third rate WC player who thinks he’s a shoaling monk or Jet Li.

I train for real. I’m actualy training to go “pro” (UFC, Tough Man, whatever out there) in a year and a half. If you look back at some of my posts like 3 or 4 months ago, I had the same goal, but set 3 years away. I have spent the past 3 months in heavy training, and the time fame has been cut in half. I AM VERY CONFIDENT, in my master’s method, for that is all it is: unbeatable principles, strong shapes, intentions.

bak mei

Ginger fist, I do not feel a need to get my facts straight because

–becuz u r a total moron … good anwer

Hung Mei wiping out Bak Mei …

–it’s a historical fiction denoting the changing of the guard in the hakka hand u fu(king moron & that’s the whole of my comment

or the fact that I am not even a Bak Mei player. I picked up the name because at the time I was researching the history of the person and found it interesting.

–BBBBWWWAAAHHHAAAhhhaaa … holy sheep sh*it u r a total goober … thanx 4 sharing

I am now studying Hsing-I and Ba Gua, that’s what I would consider myself.

–kewl beans … ? family bagua?

My teacher has his own system as well, E-chuan, and I know I would roll my eyes to here of another creating there own system,

–naw … it’s kewl … people act like every1 went brain dead in the martial art world after 'bout 1850

but I know this man and know what he is capable of –

–& as long as u r satisfied with that & he agrees to teach i say good 4 u & good 4 him

Bak-Mei,

May I ask who you teacher is? I’ve not read many of your posts so please forgive the questions if off the mark.

I read that you mentions S.Mantis and now BaGwa/Hsing Yi.

Are you connected with the Ku brothers by any chance?

Regards,

Steve.

Hi Bak-Mei,

Thanks, I’ve caught up with your posts now. Understood.

The Ku’s are Jook-Lum (Lee-Yin-Sing), teach only closed door, VERY good and hard presure testing fighters and also teach Ba-Gwa and Hsing Yi. Hence my initial misunderstanding.

Thanks,

Steve.

One point. Demanding that you attack full force is actually pretty common, at least in Taiji. It has something to do with needing to receive the real energy of the attack in order to show how to deal with it. It’s not unique but still, sounds like you found yourself a good teacher.

I remember you talking about fighting professionally,
and I’m glad to see you back and hear that you still
want to do that. There are atleast some other TCMA
people that are interested in doing that. Problem for
you is NHB/MMA is illegal in NY, but that could change
anytime.

Bak Mei-

Look if you don’t practise bak mei don’t use the name. especially if you’re doing some “SECRET STYLE” found only deep in the belly of chinatown. Your confusing people here.

How did I know you were going to say “my master’s challenges are behind closed doors”

So everyone who wants to open a school in chinatown has to fight your master?

If your teacher is that good at 60+ you should tell him to train Joe Frasier. Iam sure they will pay him mega $$$ for teaching him how to defy the aging process. Certainly will make more than teaching a bunch of “closed door” disciples in NYC chinatown.

Oh, don’t tell me he doesn’t want to dilute his system by teaching an outsider.

Well fist off let me say this: If you like your style that much then more power to you! Isn;t Hsing-I internal? I’m asking because I’m thinking about training in this.Also whats your real name. So I can see you kick some ass on UFC when you enter!

I don’t know if he should enter. He can’t even touch a 60+ yr old man!

What would someone who is half that age do to him. People like, Maurice Smith, Sakuraba…

iron palm

bak mei,

I think it all depends on the teacher and the medicine that is used, how the medicine is prepared and chi correction exercises is a must followed with chi kung or meditations.

well ykm does it like this, i have been doing iron palm since 92 full on thats everyday! i learnt the technique and proceedure back in 1986 but didnt go at it really hard, untill 1992!

Iron palm is a must i believe and its more about the recovery of your hand after a strike or an injury too. There has been times when my hand should have been broken and unusable but i had only a minor injury, so its help in many ways.

it trains focus, control, penetration, timing, breath, mindset etc so its as good for you as kicking and punching pads. also remember that you start off with a soft substance inside and work up too a hard substance!!:smiley:

merry xmas and happy new year