OK all you Mantis guys

BeiTangLang

So mantis was first practiced in Pedantry. Hmmm…interesting derivation.
Well your thoughts seem a little incomplete, but i hope you are not bored with Mantis, just looking for testosterone?
Well, if Lohan does not trace back to Wang Lang, then what is the full story, before i waste hours searching about your sources?
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would be very low profile. Like some old guys, traditional teachers that have managed to survive are affiliated with the big commercial full time training centres like in Wudang and they visit and instruct on invitation. There is no public way to get a comperehensive picture about what is the china scope. It takes a lot of time for anyone to gather even a small picture.
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I just get my information from people/sifu/students who visit, live & train in China. I trust them at their word.

Yours?

Well does that mean you will trust me at my word? For I am one of the guys gathering small pictures. I met thetraditional teachers at the Wudang schools. In the last 10 years i have spent about 4/5 of the time in Asia and am currently in China’s interior.
I wouldn’t trust me. Just use your commonsense to evaluate me. I wouldn’t trust people so much . Many Sifu’s have an axe to grind or that is to say an interest to promote and will give a slanted picure. Another thing there is nothing worse than people who “know” especially Chinese. That is to say ther are many dimesions of experience here and if their experience is only with one dimension they cannot see the others. Chinese people are the last to know their own culture. They usually only know the “this person area - bendi ren - this place person” - because they are so conformist in that one group, and because they have no agressiveness to explore or ability to analyse (from their educational culture) they don’t see the other dimensions. It’s so apparent when you travel from province to province, city to city.
I’ve had some contact with Cotrell’s people, i guess i’ll follow up one that.
I think you are not associatied with Lee Kam Wing, you sifu branched off at the 4th generation,? i’ll take a look.
What I said about Lee’s explanation of Lohan, is that i’ts of no use to an outsider. He doesn’t explain the purpose or method clearly. It could only be use to a student already practising with him to remember and maybe extend a little.
What are the books you would swear by?

The thoughts are not incomplete,…just bored myself to death talking to you. I’ll send you an email with the rest of the info you requested.

“If you eat bitter, you will taste bitter…”

Bored talking Mantis?

In my mantis society we sit around in circles talking mantis to all hours. It is not really informal, its part of our effort.
I saw someone express your attitude and get wiped out with a few lines of poetry. She was later sitting outside weeping.
The power of confrontation is for the brave.
Poetry Fu!!
And you are still bored even to find out anything about china from me??
Well how about some pics of knifefighter wearing a dress?
You should post your information in public for everyone. We are not personal.

O.K. here is the info,..

Damned right we are not personal & if you ever want to get confrontational, I am your guy.

To answer your question, no, I do not want to learn anything about China from you at this juncture; there are to many other reliable sources upon which I can draw without “testosterone” as you put it.

If you know a knife-fighter wearing a dress then LOL, good for you; But I don’t hang out in those crowds…much…anymore <j/k>.

I saw someone express your attitude, & they kept on speaking long after others stopped listening…& I bet that they will continue to do so.
-BT

“If you eat bitter, you will taste bitter…”

Keep me posted Taichimantis. Would these tapes be for your school or just your personal use?

well…

Without any antagonistic banter… It is just clips of my school at different tournaments, festivals, events, and so on.
My Sihing says he has a copy of the videos that are on our Sifu’s “unofficial webpage” that many of us cannot view. This includes brick breaking (with the head) I believe, and Ly Sifu doing the Tai Chi Praying mantis Kwan Dao set. I will have to ask permission first. Sifu does not mind being taped, but he does mind people claiming to teach his stuff!
I have some Iron Shirt Chi Kung, The complete First Form of Tai Chi Jeung (Jang), some tournament bits of Tai Chi sword, broadsword and Mantis empty hand sets.
Basically it will be a collection of my home movies.
Interestingly enough when I taped Ly Sifu hitting my Sihings at the Festival of the Arts for his Iron Shirt Demonstration, there were some small children saying things like “he aint hitting them that hard, this is stupid.”
When you look carefully you will see that there are splinters coming off of some of the sticks, and I dont care how softly someone hits you with a bowling pin…
That !@#$ hurts!

I will keep you up to date, as of now I need a part from Sharp Electronics to transfer my 8mm to VHS.
namaste

Caught my interest as well!

Rouge they caught my interest as well.

From what I have researched I came to these conclusions:

1)Pretty darn complete styles. They do it all: footwork, long range, close range, mid range, grappling, pressure points, this, that, and the kitchen sink. It was defienltly worth looking at. This is what a kung fu system should be like!

2)Very varied. There are many, many different styles. I think (I say I think because I lack the knowledge right now to make a better judgement) I liked 8step better. It just caught me as very effective and like I said; they do it ALL.

3)Most of the styles even came with thier own Chi Kung exercises and such. I don’t ever recall any W/C training I had bringing any chi kung with it :slight_smile: I AM JEALOUS!

4)The mantis itself is quite a ferocious animal. I used to have a pet one and it was about as close to a tiger as anything in the insect world :smiley: Not to mention it crushes animals twice it’s size. I couldn’t think of a better animal to base a martial art on.

There is no doubt Praying Mantis has many great things to offer. I just know, that someday, I will take a long hard look at it.

Always seeking to learn,
Kong Jianshen
Humble disciple of the ancient Boxing Arts

I just got tired of posting in the Northern Mantis section and no one answering my newbiefied questions!! :smiley:

Always seeking to learn,
Kong Jianshen
Humble disciple of the ancient Boxing Arts

Wow!!! BeiTangLang

You really seem to have taijiruler up your behind!!!
Don’t look at me.
I didn’t put it there.
Adios amigo.

Afterthought

Oh i can’t resist saying this. I’m just so talkative.
Beitanglang, reminds me of people who are bored yet have nothing to say.
Hello Hello… I guess i’m speaking long after i stopped listening.
I wonder how one can be confrontational and be without testosterone. Maybe Santa needs to bring BTL a dictionary for Xmas? Help get those thoughts complete.