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[QUOTE=Kellen Bassette;1203674]That’s strength training/conditioning…one traditional aspect…

I never understand the folks who say weight training is bad? How can being stronger ever hurt your martial arts? It’s good for every other sport in the world accept your particular, special MA…you know the type..:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

i am in college and tried finding sparring partners but they looked down on me because i was skinny. i started lifting to spar with them, but then i got bigger than them and lost my interest for sparring with them.

older american kung fu hobbyists come from 70’s nerd/jock alpha/beta social hierarchy.

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1203676]It’s like some people think that they can use “soft” to kill their opponents.[/QUOTE]

I was talking to my cousin once before a MT fight; and he says to me, “don’t be nervous, think about it…what style haven’t you sparred against?”

I said, “I guess I’ve never sparred with a Tai Chi guy.” He laughed and said let’s see someone bring Tai Chi to a kick boxing match. :cool:

[QUOTE=Kellen Bassette;1203679]I was talking to my cousin once before a MT fight; and he says to me, “don’t be nervous, think about it…what style haven’t you sparred against?”

I said, “I guess I’ve never sparred with a Tai Chi guy.” He laughed and said let’s see someone bring Tai Chi to a kick boxing match. :cool:[/QUOTE]

when i was a boy, before i spar, i think “i must defend honor of kung fu” and i was very nervous.

now if i spar, i think “you dare fuk with me, i will fuk your mother poosy”. and im not nervous.

so i think the spirit of kung fu is to fuk your enemyes mother poosy, to become strong.

[QUOTE=Kellen Bassette;1203679] let’s see someone bring Tai Chi to a kick boxing match. :cool:[/QUOTE]
Do you know that “push” only exists in the Taiji system? The push is not a punch. It’s not a throw either. I don’t know what it is.

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1203681]Do you know that “push” only exists in the Taiji system? The push is not a punch. It’s not a throw either. I don’t know what it is.[/QUOTE]

push is hongquan slang for palm strike. in corrupt taiji system it became actual useless push.

when taiji was chen village boxing (hongquan, changquan, pao chui) it was real martial art.

[QUOTE=bawang;1203678]i am in college and tried finding sparring partners but they looked down on me because i was skinny. i started lifting to spar with them, but then i got bigger than them and lost my interest for sparring with them.

older american kung fu hobbyists come from 70’s nerd/jock alpha/beta social hierarchy.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I know the type you mean. The good news is there are KF schools competing in kick boxing and mma now, more and more traditional guys who want to fight. The sport fighting really forces you to reengage the “lost” hard traditional training. It applies to self defense as well. I really believe that’s what’s needed.

Kyokushin Karate was founded in the early '60’s. It was based on 2 traditional styles. The founder just wanted to make fighters. They kept the katas and traditional drills, just train hard for fighting, conditioning, bags and weights. Now they have a good reputation for producing fighters.

All it takes is doing the hard work. Teachers are afraid they will lose students if they work them too hard. But there’s schools out there that don’t care and say if you don’t like it go elsewhere. The other method is teaching a forms class and a sanda class.

I’m sure there’s a line of people on this forum that want to spar you. by know. :cool:

[QUOTE=bawang;1203683]push is hongquan slang for palm strike. in corrupt taiji system it became actual useless push.[/QUOTE]

Longfist has palm strike too but it always applies on the side of the neck. SC has push too but it always include a leg sweep, leg hook, …

[QUOTE=Kellen Bassette;1203684]Yeah, I know the type you mean. The good news is there are KF schools competing in kick boxing and mma now, more and more traditional guys who want to fight. The sport fighting really forces you to reengage the “lost” hard traditional training. It applies to self defense as well. I really believe that’s what’s needed.
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but most kung fu people competing arent winning. they are competing in mma, most train basically mma, but arent winning.

because they train to “restore honor of kung fu” “defend kung fu” “regain lost kung fu”. they dont train for the love of violence.

the meaning of tcma is spirituality through brutality. enlightenment through violence.

[QUOTE=bawang;1203680]when i was a boy, before i spar, i think “i must defend honor of kung fu” and i was very nervous.

now if i spar, i think “you dare fuk with me, i will fuk your mother poosy”. and im not nervous.

so i think the spirit of kung fu is to fuk your enemyes mother poosy, to become strong.[/QUOTE]

Whatever puts you in the mindset..that’s your KF. Some folks get scared, their adrenaline pumps and they fight well. Other guys get scared and forget how.

Some guys get mad and just charge and flail, other get mad and they focus better…whatever works for you.

[QUOTE=bawang;1203687]but most kung fu people competing arent winning. they are competing in mma, most train basically mma, but arent winning.

because they train to “restore honor of kung fu” “defend kung fu” “regain lost kung fu”. they dont train for the love of violence.

the meaning of tcma is spirituality through brutality. enlightenment through violence.[/QUOTE]

Your 100% right.

You don’t fight to honor your system. You fight because your a fighter.

[QUOTE=Kellen Bassette;1203688]Whatever puts you in the mindset..that’s your KF. Some folks get scared, their adrenaline pumps and they fight well. Other guys get scared and forget how.

Some guys get mad and just charge and flail, other get mad and they focus better…whatever works for you.[/QUOTE]

i dont feel anything. i feel nothing.

[QUOTE=bawang;1203687] they dont train for the love of violence.[/QUOTE]

You have to be a bit violent to love combat. People said that when you get old, you will like more health, self-cultivation, and inner peace. Now I’m old. I still like combat. My mom must drop my head on the ground when I was a baby. :o

[QUOTE=bawang;1203690]i dont feel anything. i feel nothing.[/QUOTE]

Can’t help you there…

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1203691]You have to be a bit violent to love combat. People said that when you get old, you will like more health, self-cultivation, and inner peace. Now I’m old. I still like combat. My mom must drop my head on the ground when I was a baby. :o[/QUOTE]

Nah…the tough old guys become trainers, because they see themselves in some hot headed young punk. :smiley:

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1203691]You have to be a bit violent to love combat. People said that when you get old, you will like more health, self-cultivation, and inner peace. Now I’m old. I still like combat. My mom must drop my head on the ground when I was a baby. :o[/QUOTE]

violence is part of being a man. i wish my dad taught me this, but i had to learn this from dead silent men in books.

[QUOTE=Kellen Bassette;1203693]Nah…the tough old guys become trainers, because they see themselves in some hot headed young punk. :D[/QUOTE]

The true reason for any old guy to train hard is because he doesn’t want any 20 years old to beat him up.

One day a guy and his wife knocked on my door. The guy was a Judo champ in Israel. He challenged me in “push hand” in my living room. I told him that I don’t do push hand but I was willing to spar or wrestle with him, He said that he had knee injury and no longer be able to wrestle.

There is nothing worse for someone knocks on your door and beat you up in your own living room.

[QUOTE=Kellen Bassette;1203692]Can’t help you there…[/QUOTE]

i only receive erection from watching kfc chicken torture video.
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1203695]The true reason for any old guy to train hard is because he doesn’t want any 20 years old to beat him up.[/QUOTE]

i dont feel like training when im old, by then women my age will have hanging skin and flappy vaginas. i dont need to impress anyone.

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1203695]The true reason for any old guy to train hard is because he doesn’t want any 20 years old to beat him up.

One day a guy and his wife knocked on my door. The guy was a Judo champ in Israel. He challenged me in “push hand” in my living room. I told him that I don’t do push hand but I was willing to spar or wrestle with him, He said that he had knee injury and no longer be able to wrestle.

There is nothing worse for someone knocks on your door and beat you up in your own living room.[/QUOTE]

It’s always funny though, when they can’t do anything hard because of an injury or work tonight or w/e excuse, though. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=bawang;1203696]i dont feel like training when im old, by then women my age will have hanging skin and flappy vaginas. i dont need to impress anyone.[/QUOTE]

After I had impressed my beautiful wife, I no longer need to impress any women. When I taught Taiji in YWCA, girls loved to touch my body and said, “as hard as rock”. Even today water still dropped out of my wife’s mouth when she saw my naked body.

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1203699]After I had impressed my beautiful wife, I no longer need to impress any women. When I taught Taiji in YWCA, girls loved to touch my body and said, “as hard as rock”. Even today water still dropped out of my wife’s mouth when she saw my naked body.[/QUOTE]

does she have flappy vagina, or hang loose like sleeve of wizard