“Kasumi Yama Bujinkan Dojo”
“From 900 years of Japan’s warring past comes Asheville’s only real combat art…
…Budo Taijutsu as taught by Grandmaster Massaki Hatsumi of the Bujinkan System.”
Anyone have any expereince with this group? They appear to be ‘international’.
punch line: yet another martial arts school stupidly attempting to operate in an extremely saturated market…
Hatsumi is legit.
Well, sure. Wasn’t questioning that at all.
So, are you saying that these guys definitely have a direct link to Hatsumi?
“So, are you saying that these guys definitely have a direct link to Hatsumi?”
–I don’t know. If you post on an established Bujinkan message board, they’ll be able to tell you if this guy trains regularly with Hatsumi or if he went his own way a long time ago.
right, thanks.
Oso,
I spent about a decade in the Bujinkan, training on and off, if I ever wanted to try to get back in, I would definitely go check out the particular school I was thinking of joining and watch a couple classes…whether or not somebody is affiliated with Hatsumi would mean absolutely nothing to me…they could still either be good or totally suck…in fact, a lot of people will rest on their affiliation with Hatsumi, in place of actual skill…my own ranking with the Bujinkan has long since expired but I could easily get that ranking by sending in a fee…it’s just not worth it to me…be careful, the politics in ninjutsu are almost as bad as in kung fu…
and if you are wondering why I spent so much time there…well it wasn’t all bad…just like in other arts some things were great others were not so great…and I started when I was so young, that I wasn’t even really aware of other martial arts until I had been in there for a long time…
Real ninjas are from Shaolin
[QUOTE=Akhilleus]…be careful, the politics in ninjutsu are almost as bad as in kung fu…
[QUOTE]
lol…
I just see a bunch of guys in ninja suits on the rival teachers roof waiting for him to come out.. then saying if he were in a “real” ninjitsu lineage, he’d know that they were there.
NP…funny, but actually that brings up a very good point…in a way it’s a good thing ninjutsu practititioners judge eachothers legitimacy based on whether or not they have a certain piece of paper…but look at Stephen Hayes…he actually displayed his ninjutsu skill on the discovery channel…so there are ways of showing you are skilled in ninjutsu w/o sneaking up on somebody and shooting them with a blow gun…
thanks. I’m not thinking about joining. Just discovered there is a local group (two actually; the other being about 30 miles away) and had to laugh a little at their line “…Asheville’s only real combat art”
also, this town of 75k already has 30+ schools in it…the pie just keeps getting cut into smaller pieces…
I talked with my friend who’s been teaching here for about 20 years and got the scoop on their demeanor…didn’t sound so great.
You hit my point on the head…association with so-and-so, irrelevent of who that so-and-so is doesn’t mean that much.
besides, if I went and visited them I’d have to test my ill-gotten-misreperesented ninja skills against theirs 
Oso,
Where do you train in Asheville?
-Will
I know, I know, but how much cooler would it be if they did.
btw, just so i don’t get misunderstood, this line was meant to be self-deprecating
punch line: yet another martial arts school stupidly attempting to operate in an extremely saturated market…
“…Asheville’s only real combat art”
Dude, I h8 when people advertise/talk like this…it’s one thing to say “We’re good”…it’s another thing to say “Everyone else sux”…it’s not necessary to put others down to make yourself look good…and how do we define a “real combat art?”
EDIT: sorry I’m making a big deal outta one little sentence…but as a businessman/martial arts instructor I find such statements inappropriate…even though one such statement isn’t really a big deal…
They practice with real darts in their dart guns
Really man I don’t know much about dart guns…but I do know one day they were practicing cutting with real swords…they were cutting wet newspaper…instead of tying it up in a tree or something, they were working in partners with one person holding the newspaper out while the other cut it…actually, they never did get to practice because when the instructor went to demonstrate he cut this girl’s wrist…the girl had to go to the hospital and DIDN’T sue :eek:
But most of the weapons training I did was really cool, I thought…the swordplay, bo staff, chain, and knife we usually trained with a resisting partner…so I would say my experiences with weapons in ninjutsu were great…then again I’m not the one that had my instructor cut my wrist…
Akhilleus,
Who was your teacher?
What rank did you hold in the Bujinkan?
Hey Stranger,
My first teacher was Will Maier he was a student of Stephen K. Hayes…I got my black belt in thaijitsu from him and was about halfway to second degree when I quit…
Several years later, I trained under Keith Thompson, a student of Bud Malmstrom for a couple of years…I got like 6th kyu or something I don’t really remember…
Both these guys were in MD but Will is long gone now I don’t know where he is…
