Guess this is what happens when your attitude overshadows the real world and people don’t automatically subjugate themselves to the bad$$ reality you perceive yourself to live in.
If you read the article you can see this guy had some issues and felt his fighter lifestyle extended into the realm of dumbf@ckery.
It’s not as bad as what happened to Alex Gong and his headtrip about chasing down car thiefs but whatever.
http://www.wrestling-news.com/artman/publish/article_3312.shtml
that was his wwe hot headedness coming out of him. in any event, hopefully he learned something. now he’s 1 - 2 in the ring and 0 - 1 in teh 57R337.
This is exactly what I have been talking about on this BB for years. There is a difference between a duel and a REAL fight with REAL bad guys. The bad guys will do whatever it takes to win. They prefer any down and dirty form of attack including sneaking up on you with surprise attacks. The assailant probably would have had his clock cleaned in the ring, but in the real world surprise and tactics are used to ensure victory and bad guys will do whatever it takes to win. The result here is a possibly ended career.
[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;752790]This is exactly what I have been talking about on this BB for years. There is a difference between a duel and a REAL fight with REAL bad guys. The bad guys will do whatever it takes to win. They prefer any down and dirty form of attack including sneaking up on you with surprise attacks. The assailant probably would have had his clock cleaned in the ring, but in the real world surprise and tactics are used to ensure victory and bad guys will do whatever it takes to win. The result here is a possibly ended career.[/QUOTE]
It’s not like most MA schools would prepare anybody better, would they? With what little apps practice they have.
At any rate, whatever. The problem with TMA IMHO is just teachers and lack of apps practice. The solution – there is no solution, is there? There will probably just be a proliferation of MMA schools.
Hi Neil,
Well that has always been my point. The MMA crowd likes to criticize TCM and my point has been that they are not necessarily any more prepared than anyone else.
You must understand your enemy in order to be prepared to fare well against them in combat!
[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;752794]Hi Neil,
Well that has always been my point. The MMA crowd likes to criticize TCM and my point has been that they are not necessarily any more prepared than anyone else.
You must understand your enemy in order to be prepared to fare well against them in combat![/QUOTE]
Somehow admitting that everyone sucks doesn’t seem to help matters any.
It’s not like most MA schools would prepare anybody better, would they? With what little apps practice they have
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There is a big difference between traditional ma, mma and the context of enviromental self defense. Both traditional ma and mma players act like they have the specific banknote to dealing with violent crime.
The hyperactiveness of crime goes far beyond the physical side of traditional martial art applications and how ring fight conditioning leads to better warriors. The best path is in the middle of the road where you have the most room to be heedfull.
[QUOTE=Black Jack II;752797].
There is a big difference between traditional ma, mma and the context of enviromental self defense. Both traditional ma and mma players act like they have the specific banknote to dealing with violent crime.
The hyperactiveness of crime goes far beyond the physical side of martial art applications and ring fight conditioning debates. The best path is in the middle of the road where you have the most room to be heedfull.[/QUOTE]
All these discussions are just stupid. Guns win fights. Fights don’t win fights.
Bottom line is who cares if BJJ or MMA would beat anything? People with guns kill people. People without guns die.
Bottom line is who cares if BJJ or MMA would beat anything? People with guns kill people. People without guns die
That’s not what I am talking about. It’s about making smart lifestyle choices.
Well, I’m sure alcohol played a huge role in all of this. Intoxication diminsihes any amount of training you have.
in before lock 
[QUOTE=Black Jack II;752804]That’s not what I am talking about. It’s about making smart lifestyle choices.[/QUOTE]
Oh, you mean not being an angry 'roid head… That’s another issue entirely. LOL
people are ass holes before they use gear. gear just makes them bigger ass holes. and i mean that litterally … they are simply larger d1ckheads. roid rage is a myth.
getting that out of the way i dont see what this proves. some dude got jacked. it happens. maybe it was the element of surprise as scott was saying, maybe it was a lucky punch, or maybe the guy he picked on just happened to be a real bad ass who could hit like a truck. not everyone who can throw a punch has a professional ring career.
[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;752790]bad guys will do whatever it takes to win. [/QUOTE]
not just bad guys. smart people will do whatever it takes as well.
[QUOTE=GunnedDownAtrocity;752816]people are ass holes before they use gear. gear just makes them bigger ass holes. and i mean that litterally … they are simply larger d1ckheads. roid rage is a myth.
getting that out of the way i dont see what this proves. some dude got jacked. it happens. maybe it was the element of surprise as scott was saying, maybe it was a lucky punch, or maybe the guy he picked on just happened to be a real bad ass who could hit like a truck. not everyone who can throw a punch has a professional ring career.[/QUOTE]
Or maybe it is a roid rage driven guy who liked to talk crap a lot and finally pushed the guy too far. Hey, finally a bully got his comeuppance. Great show.
Move along now please, nothing to see right here…
This story doesn’t prove anything.
It has nothing to do with any perceived MMA vs TMA debate.
It has nothing to do with any 'alive’ness debate.
It has nothing to do with beating a criminal mindset.
It has little to do with the so-called r33l l33t 5tr33t, and more to do with the trouble with being drunk.
It is just a couple of drunken guys (and let’s be honest, the MMAer is primarily a show wrestler), one of whom hit the other with one good/lucky punch, which broke the other’s eye socket.
Thank you. You can all go home now.
Like Ive been saying, size/strengh and pure agressiveness/how violent you are is what really determines who wins in the fight, its almost all mental, and the rest msotly how you physiclaly look like not what uve been trinaing in the gym tha tmost liekly will go out in the fight anywaya s you try to survive ratehr than win in such an encounter.
[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;752790]This is exactly what I have been talking about on this BB for years. There is a difference between a duel and a REAL fight with REAL bad guys. The bad guys will do whatever it takes to win. They prefer any down and dirty form of attack including sneaking up on you with surprise attacks. The assailant probably would have had his clock cleaned in the ring, but in the real world surprise and tactics are used to ensure victory and bad guys will do whatever it takes to win. The result here is a possibly ended career.[/QUOTE]
not only that but they will take shots to the face full on just to egt close to u and use their size advantage, and wont even flinch casue they have so much more adrenaline than in sparring for exmaple.
[QUOTE=neilhytholt;752795]Somehow admitting that everyone sucks doesn’t seem to help matters any.[/QUOTE]
well here is the solution even as Bruce Lee put it, get in lots of street fight to gain experience (also growing up in a hood and being hardened helps, and having a killer instinct also helps not backing out, etc.) One solution is do what I dio, try attacking and fighting pedophiles that should be dead anyway.
[QUOTE=JetLi’sFearless;752834]try attacking and fighting pedophiles that should be dead anyway.[/QUOTE]
Uh, okay … obviously you have some issues … not that there’s anyone who probably doesn’t, just that even talking about such a thing isn’t a great idea.
Obviously, since a lot of other people have mentioned a lack of fight practice in their school, this is not an isolated problem. However, picking random fights on the street probably isn’t a good solution.