I feel for the bull…
Mas Oyama is the REAL DEAL
Mas Oyama and all Kyokushin practitioners are hardcore martial artists. If anyone had any contact or experience with Kyokushin fighters, You know what I mean. I have great respect for the no nonsense approach and hard core training that Sosai Oyama has started. So before anyone tries to knock down such an icon, do your homework, visit a Kyokushin School and then pose your opinion.
With Respects . . .
All the Oyama you can eat
http://www.kyokushinmail.com/koya/Kyokushin.htm
Video clips and all.
As for history:
Josh,
If I thought for one second you knew one single fact about Oyama, Blumming. kyokushin, etc. I might actually consider debating your ridiculously innacurate statement…
BUT, you don’t know d!ck.
If you could travel, your absolute humiliation at the hands of any number of kyokushin BB’s could be arranged. As all fights must take place at the Frederick pond, you may sleep well tonight. If you would drive a couple of hours, you would be unconcious within twenty seconds against the kyokushin opponents you could face.
Oyama was one of the first modern cross trained fighters, and would have beaten the living monkey c/rap out of most fighters who’s ability you consider beyond question. I’m not saying he was unbeatable, but he trained realistically and long with a dedication seldom seen in the martial art world.
Good night!
I don’t get mad.
I get stabby.
man ive seen some of the videos and pics of oyama , he is sh1t hot , i ve seen him break the bulls horn with a knife hand cop and do the same with bottles lined up. i know people can speculate it is fake but who knows, i will tell you one thing i saw though , was oyama sparring against 2 students and he bounced them like they were a basketball, he dodged one of the attacks , and hit him with a weird looking inside ridge hand , and the student went back a couple of feet and bounced on the floor.
and that 100 man kumite stuff is real you had to do that back in the day to get your black belt from him , he did spar with over 200 people back to back, some of them got up again and again 3 or 4 times , but by sparring they meant that the guy would run in hit oyama and oyama would bounce him away, next…
what do bin laden and general custer have in common???
They’re both wondering where the fu(k all of those tomahawks are coming from. - donated by mojo
Don’t-call-me-spanky. No. How would i see this as a threat to jiujitsu? I am just saying what i have read from an actual student of Mas Oyama.
This is what a student under Mas Oyama said. I don’t have any knowledge about Oyama other than what his own personal black belt has said. Basically John Blumming was appauled about all the false hoods going around about Oyama.
Does anyone have a copy of the post? I’m just saying what i have read from an personal student of Oyama that was with Oyama for a long period of time.
Imagine your instructor. NOw your instructor dies and all of a sudden everyone starts saying your instructor was the best ever and starts stories that are false about your instructor fighting 100’s of guys. You would be kind of annoyed? This is what John Blumming said.
Maybe John Blumming is lying. I don’t know. But i’m just quoting what Blumming has said.
Brazilian jiujitsu is superior.
Some children actually should be seen and not heard.
Just go play your video games, Rolls, and beat off to your posters of wrestlers. Adults are in the room now, and we’re talking…
K. Mark Hoover
Rolls, that last post of yours was at least semi intellegent and slightly humble.
Quit it. Just be a dumba$$ jerk. My world is small and easily fractured. In it, women are beautiful, the grass is green, the sky is blue, and you’re an idiot. Please do not confuse me.
As far as the bull stories go, I absolutely belive that he could knock one out with a strike. It’s hard for me to believe he did it in a “bullfight” scenario. As far as the horns being knocked off, again, from a man that has owned many a Brangus bull and done his fair share of bulldogging, it’s quit possible. I’ve seen a young bull crack his horn thrashing in a squeeze chute. Oyama proved over and over that he could smash through many bricks and slabs of rock. The force generated there is more than enough to smack off a horn or two.
The 100 man “randori” is possible as well. The description of “bouncing off” is what everyone described the fights as to me. They were almost all one hit knock downs or big knock backs. Then the next man came up.
And let’s also remember that the first people to train under Oyama thought him to be quite insane. His training regiment was at least a little crazy. A man driven. I’ve always wondered why.
JWT
If you pr!ck us, do we not bleed? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that the villany you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction. MOV
Heard this guy was fanatical about training…Bruce Lee was to kung fu…Dan Gable to wrestling…Rickson Gracie to BJJ…OYAMA to karate.
A
http://www.musashi.nl/RealTruthframe.htm
This is the link to John Blummings account of his years with Oyama.
Read all 5 english exerps and decide for yourself.
I am the most humble person you’ll ever meet.
Check out that link planet wing chun posted:
http://www.kyokushinmail.com/koya/Kyokushin.htm
Download the sparring videoclips.
Erm, sure his student seems to bounces off him, but if u look at one of them it almost seems if the guy tries to miss Oyama’s head, he goes down far too easy.
I know a lot of you will say well that’s what master’s look like at high levels. It looks like his strikes are weak or effortless, when they in fact do massive damage. But still, his sparring partner was lacking in attitude (and weight) quite a bit.
Mas Oyama
Yep, looks like two guys sparring to me.
What was your point?
That this is proof that Mas Oyama was a fake?
When you sparr, does someone have to floor you in order for you to learn something?
No.
Do you work on a particular technique in order to hone it to perfection?
Yes
These Mpegs look like two guys sparring, more specific one working on attacking and the other working on defense.
Not two guys going mixing it up hardcore.
It is official. Oyama was just an ordinary karate guy who’s reputation has because redicuously inflated.
It’s kind of like all those prophets. Just a bunch of phonies but some people think they have a direct connection to god, ect. Stupid people will easily believe any nonsense they hear.
Brazilian jiujitsu is superior.
Ralek
when you say something is official it just makes it unofficial. From what I have seen he is the real deal, and from what i see, others on this forum think so also.
It is official. Gracie was just an ordinary Jujitsu guy who’s reputation has because ridiculously inflated.
It’s kind of like all those prophets. Just a bunch of phonies but some people think they have a direct connection to god, etc. Stupid people will easily believe any nonsense they hear.
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You’re fu(king up my chi
Abandit. The Gracie’s have their fights on tape.
I have video’s of Royce smashing in the heads of kung fu instructors in challenge matches at the academy. I have video’s of Royce fighitng in the UFC taking out people much larger and stronger than him.
I have videos of Rickson doing the same thing and even have a video of Rickson in a street fight.
Basically the Gracie’s got their reputaion by kicking ass. Oyama got his reputation by what fanatical students say.
Brazilian jiujitsu is superior.
There are videos of Oyama fighting.
The Gracies don’t need their students to espouse their virtues - they got you. So do you hang out backstage when they are fighting and try and have sex with them afterwards? You are a Gracie groupie after all. Oh, hang on - that’s what you call training! You thought rolling around naked on the floor with them was how BJJ is actually trained. Poor Ralek - butt-raped by the Gracies so often he doesn’t know what is real and what isn’t 
Did Royce ever fight a bull?
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You’re fu(king up my chi
that link is great, look at the power oyama has ,i mean how many guys do you know who can actually bounce someone with a punch and not kill them, its like taiji , you put the intent to go through and hurt the person , you put the intent before and you bounce him…
what do bin laden and general custer have in common???
They’re both wondering where the fu(k all of those tomahawks are coming from. - donated by mojo
i couldnt read that blumming link as it was in dutch and couldnt find english and bable doesnt translate it. however there was a link saying more on mas oyama which was in english and said all about his 12 hour a day fanatical training, so i cant see how bluming was discrediting him !!?!?!
Oh btw oyama won the japan national open 3 times also like kimura i believe so he could say he is undisputed.
what do bin laden and general custer have in common???
They’re both wondering where the fu(k all of those tomahawks are coming from. - donated by mojo
A couple years ago i trained in kyokushinkai karate for a bit. it was good training and an interesting style even though i came to the conclusion that it is more of a guy style. i don’t know much about Oyama sensei but for what it’s worth even my old teacher said that a lot of the stories were either fabrications and exaggerations, not to say he didn’t think Oyama sensei was an extremely skilled and powerful karateka. But he seemed pretty jaded about aspects of the organization and felt that there was always too much politics involved especially in Oyama sensei’s days. Which is partly why so many exaggerations about him were made up and people were expected to worship him. My teacher was an honest guy who did karate for love of the art. And he was also good in boxing and brazilian jiu jitsu although he taught nothing but karate in that dojo.
Deadliness is often masked by beauty