Lone Tiger, it looks to be an expansion of Siu Lim Tao and is very interesting!! Indeed. It looks like ot carries variations and combinations of set wing chun arms (low Bong Sau) and has a good flow to it. I like it…
[QUOTE=LoneTiger108;918394]
As another point of discussion, I recently caught this clip on Youtube of Sifu Gianfranco Pompianu.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo4afixOv-Q&feature=related
Has anyone here learnt Dai Nim Tao or similar methods/san sik?[/QUOTE]
It is all in Gu Lao WCK…
Indeed it is…
[QUOTE=LoneTiger108;910029]Discussions are happening at the moment by three of the eldest Lee Shing students Joseph Man, Austin Goh and Joe Lee in preparation for a small family get together which looks like it will be happening towards the end of May 2009 in Londons Chinatown.
For more info on Lee Shing Wing Chun, or if you would like to book a place at this event please link to www.leeshing.org.uk[/QUOTE]
I spoke with Joseph Lee on Tuesday evening, and the May event is almost certainly cancelled. I believe SiFu Goh is in Italy? teaching students out there at the end of May now.
There is however an event on 22nd August at Austin Goh’s London Bridge school. Joseph Man, Austin Goh and Joseph Lee will be teaching there. Early discussions look like SiFu Goh will teach chi gung, and Joseph Lee and Joseph Man will be teaching sticky hands and drills between them?
For more details i think Austin Goh’s website is the way to go
3pm onwards. only £30 each i think too.
Checked his site and no mention. Can you lket us know further details…
[QUOTE=LSWCTN1;934535]I spoke with Joseph Lee on Tuesday evening, and the May event is almost certainly cancelled. I believe SiFu Goh is in Italy? teaching students out there at the end of May now.
There is however an event on 22nd August at Austin Goh’s London Bridge school. Joseph Man, Austin Goh and Joseph Lee will be teaching there. Early discussions look like SiFu Goh will teach chi gung, and Joseph Lee and Joseph Man will be teaching sticky hands and drills between them?
For more details i think Austin Goh’s website is the way to go
3pm onwards. only £30 each i think too.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info! Yet again, the word gets around before anything concrete is decided :rolleyes:
It’s so good to hear these three Sifus have deceided to actually teach together at a Seminar, and it should be a great eye-opener for anyone who is into Wing Chun and/or Lee Shing Family.
I may HAVE to be at this one, so I’m looking forward to catching up with familiar faces and hopefully meeting some new ones too.
[QUOTE=chusauli;934535]It is all in Gu Lao WCK…[/QUOTE]
Agreed 100% 
Although I personally have never classified Lee Shing as being strictly Gulao Wing Chun, as he isn’t, there are some things that hold the mainland flavour. I wouldn’t name a village as the reason why. More like a mans personal journey through his country and the style imho.
All Sifus learnt individually from Lee Shing, and Austin, Joe and Joseph all have distinct approaches to their Wing Chun. The Seminar should be very interesting indeed…
[QUOTE=LoneTiger108;935057]Thanks for the info! Yet again, the word gets around before anything concrete is decided :rolleyes:
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hi Spencer, i hope i havent upset anything here - i was asked to get participants so i thought that this would be the quickest way to do that
the information i was given sounded conrete enough, the only variation (as i was told) would be the content - possibly
be good to catch up again - hopefully a little more ‘hands-on’ than the last time we met!
LSWCTN1 - Please keep us informed it would be great to attend an event.
of course - as far as i know that is confirmed? if anything changes i will let you know
Austin Goh’s London Bridge school
August 22nd 3pm
about 3 hours? seminar
[QUOTE=LSWCTN1;935093]hi Spencer, i hope i havent upset anything here - i was asked to get participants so i thought that this would be the quickest way to do that
the information i was given sounded conrete enough, the only variation (as i was told) would be the content - possibly
be good to catch up again - hopefully a little more ‘hands-on’ than the last time we met![/QUOTE]
No harm done! Actually it’s nice to see that people are talking to be honest 
I’m working on some new promotional stuff and will update the site soon (leeshing.org.uk) whilst trying to get the details confirmed. It will be interesting to see this event through as it does signify some dramatic changes to the Lee Shing family. This will be a ‘first’ for the UK.
Saturday 22nd August
LEE SHING FAMILY SEMINAR
Only a few weeks to go, so if you are interested in attending there are a number of ways to log your interest;
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Visit www.leeshing.org.uk and email your name and how many places you want to reserve, especially for people who have yet to train inside the family.
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Contact either Austin Goh, Joe Lee or Joseph Man through their websites - ONLY if you have trained with them!
www.austingoh.com
www.josephleewingchun.com
www.junmo.co.uk
- Or email me directly with your enquiry at
This is only the FIRST Seminar/Gathering to happen with all three ‘Kung Fu Brothers’, and according to recent meetings, it will not be the last! So, don’t worry if you can not attend as there will be future opportunities in the UK, Europe and even in the USA and Canada!
I’m personally looking forward to the event, and hope to meet some family members throughout the day as, although we have all been around for a time now, we have yet to have our teachers work together before so it’s all new to everyone!
I’ll try to get about a bit on the day, and take some video for our Facebook Group.
The youngest of my 5 brothers is Lee Sing. Or Sing Lee by western name. He is 3 years my senior. He is obviously not the same Lee Sing of the UK. He lives in New York. He practices Hung Fa as I do. He would never teach it to anyone other than his own.
[QUOTE=Lee Chiang Po;951433]… He would never teach it to anyone other than his own.[/QUOTE]
I guess you’re talking of your brother here?
Maybe you can help me here LCP, as being from the ‘Lee’ family (as in the surname!) you must have researched your own heritage? Would your own family have links to the ancient Lee clans? One of the five families?
I am sure that you know that Lee is the most common name in all Asia? Specially in Korea. To answer your question, I have no idea. I know the name goes way the heck back there. I had an old uncle in New York that had a family tree chart that went back 25 generations. I was very young and had absolutely no interest in such things at the time. I do sometimes wish I could go back now and talk of these things more. Anyone that would have all this information in the family would be gone by now I suppose. His tree had nothing but Lee. The daughters were not shown past marriage.
Yes, Sing is the next youngest. I am youngest. Then Jimm. Jimm is about 70 now, but could walk faster than most men could run. He could jump clear over my head. But then I am only a bit over 5 feet tall.
Time Change! AGAIN!
[B]LEE SHING FAMILY SEMINAR
Saturday 22nd August 2009
London Bridge
2-5pm[/B]
Only a week to go, so if you are interested in attending there are a number of ways to log your interest;
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Visit www.leeshing.org.uk and email your name and how many places you want to reserve, especially for people who have yet to train inside the family.
-
Contact either Austin Goh, Joe Lee or Joseph Man through their websites - ONLY if you have trained with them!
www.austingoh.com
www.josephleewingchun.com
www.junmo.co.uk
- Or email me directly with your enquiry at
This is only the FIRST Seminar/Gathering to happen with all three ‘Kung Fu Brothers’, and according to recent meetings, it will not be the last! So, don’t worry if you can not attend as there will be future opportunities in the UK, Europe and even in the USA and Canada!
I’m personally looking forward to the event, and hope to meet some family members throughout the day as, although we have all been around for a time now, we have yet to have our teachers work together before so it’s all new to everyone!
I’ll try to get about a bit on the day, and take some video for our Facebook Group.
The Family Seminar - A brief report
LEE SHING FAMILY SEMINAR
The Seminar was a great success, with over 140 students, instructors and sifus attending from all three schools.
Hosted by Master Austin Goh, he began the day with an exhibition of the Kicking Form and continued to breakdown each technique into short interactive exercises which everybody attempted and enjoyed. With regular interventions and disucussions of the sets being introduced, the whole room was soon immersed into the spirit of the day.
Master Joe Lee presented two of his students, who demonstrated stick to stick and knife to stick interactions with an empy hand interactive set which had a unique mainland flavour. He then continued to introduce various sticky hand exercises and applications from Chum Kil and Biu Jee forms which got everybody testing their skill with eachother.
Finally, Master Joseph Man gave a short speech about his introduction to Lee Shing Wing Chun by showcasing a simple technique which was what was referred to as ‘Lee Shings Logo’. Assisted by two Sifus and a hand-out for participants to study, he demonstrated the effectiveness of the ‘Hammer Fist’ and it’s application. The whole room was buzzing with shouts and sweat from this intense drill “Lien Siu Dai Da!”
To round off the day, Master Goh shared a Qi Gong cooling down excercise and continued to reminded everybody why we were here with an emotional thank you and a minute silence in memory of our Grand Master Lee Shing.
A big thank you to everybody for their efforts throughout the day, and a special mention must go to the KCL Wing Chun club for offering their student digs for the day!
It was a gret day for exchange, and hopes are good for the future of the Lee Shing Wing Chun Family.
http://www.austingoh.com
http://www.josephleewingchun.com
http://www.junmo.co.uk
http://www.freewebs.com/kclwingchun
The Lee Shing Wing Chun Family on Facebook!
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=5646373803
Joseph Cheng Wing chun
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/video/video.php?v=1092901013116
Joseph Cheng
Family Event News
I have been honoured to be an active part of our families activities lately, and proud to promote our Christmas events on behalf of my Sifu and Kung Fu Uncles, Brothers, Sisters and Cousins!
If any of you are interested in learning more about us or would like to contribute to one of our events, please contact me directly through my email kfm@flystudio.co.uk
CHRISTMAS DINNER IN LONDONS CHINATOWN
Hosted by Sifu Austin Goh
Saturday 5th December 2010
Contact Austin for more info through Facebook
http://www.facebook.com/?sk=ru&ap=1#!/profile.php?id=650015319
CHRISTMAS BUFFET & PARTY
Hosted by Sifu Joseph Man
Saturday 11th December 2010
For more info check out the event on Facebook
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=135493439835941&index=1
I’m also looking at promoting a unique Wing Chun event in London over Chinese New Year, which will be including other families and practitioners for the first time.
I will post more details as and when I get them…
New Lee Shing Biography
[I]I haven’t posted anything here in a while but seeing as I am being asked so many questions about my Sigung Lee Shing I thought it may be better for me to publish his ‘official’ Biography here.
An original article was written by Sifu Joseph Lee and presented on his website a few years ago now, and he has shared this on Facebook with my Sifu Joseph Man with more recent edits and adjustments.[/I]
"When Grandmaster Lee Shing passed away in 1991 he was European and U.K President of the Yip Man Martial Arts Association and founder of the International Lee Shing Wing Chun Martial Arts Association. He was also a member of the Hong Kong Kowloon Chinese Medical Association and was a qualified Chinese doctor. These positions are testimony to a lifetime’s dedication to Wing Chun and his impact on the development of Wing Chun in Europe has been very significant and yet it is a largely untold story. Outside of the Chinese martial arts community and the top circles of other martial arts styles, few know of his great achievements. In most books on Wing Chun, Grandmaster Lee Shing receives barely a mention yet, as shall be seen, his contribution was very important. This article is intended as a tribute to the great ability and skill of the Late Grandmaster Lee Shing as a Wing Chun practitioner and teacher. It provides a brief outline of his career and his students and is designed to honour his memory.
Grandmaster Lee Shing was born in 1923 in Hoxan in Southern China. He first studied Gulao (Pien San) Wing Chun at an early age in mainland China under his first teacher Fong Yee Ming, who himself had learnt from Wong Wah Sam who had learnt from Leung Jan. Lee Shing was a keen disciple and was inspired to research the different styles of Wing Chun, He therefore, in his research, went on to study under Fung Sang who was one of the central points of Pien San Wing Chun, having studied under his father Fung Lim and his uncle Koo Siu-Lung (both students of Wong Wah Sam). He then went on to learn from the famous Kung Fu Master Ng Jung So.
After the Second World War, Lee Shing moved to Hong Kong where he met and became friends and eventually the business partner of two Wing Chun experts, Lok Yiu and Jiu Wan. They were two of the four leading practicioners of Wing Chun in Hong Kong who became known in Wing Chun circles as the four ‘Kings of Wing Chun’. The other two were Leung Sheung and Tsui Shan Tin. It was not long before an exchange of ideas and comparison of styles took place between Lee Shing, Lok Yiu and Jiu Wan.
While working in their offices, an older gentleman entered wearing the traditional Chinese dress. Lee Shing noticed that the others greeted the man very respectfully, so much so that he was curious to know who he was. Later they all sat to play Mah Jog (a traditional Chinese gambling game). It was then that the stranger was revealed to be none other than Grandmaster Yip Man, the teacher of the ‘four kings’ of Wing Chun; In-fact Lok Yiu, a former master of another kung fu style, was Grandmaster Yip Man’s first student in Hong Kong. Lee Shing was formally introduced by Jiu Wan to Grandmaster Yip Man. At the time Grandmaster Yip Man was teaching Wing Chun in Hong Kong’s Restaurant Workers’ Union. Lee Shing was fortunate enough to be accepted by Grandmaster Yip Man as a student and received instruction privately from him on a one-to-one basis. He was known only to Grandmaster Yip Man’s senior students and later to Grandmaster Yip Man’s eldest son Yip Chun.
Over the years, Grandmaster Yip Man taught Lee Shing the complete Wing Chun system. He had mastered the three hand forms, the wooden dummy form, the six-and-a-half point pole form and most importantly of all Grandmaster Yip Man had taught Lee Shing the complete butterfly knife form and its applications. This last form was of particular importance as it represented the highest point of learning in Wing Chun. At the time Grandmaster Yip Man had taught only three people the complete knife form. He was allowed to open up a school on Hong Kong Island in the early 50s - with the opening ceremony being conducted by Grandmaster Yip Man himself. It was at this time that Lee Shing met Yip Chun who had resumed his studies in Wing Chun. The two became firm friends and henceforth when Yip Chun came to England, he would always stay at Lee Shing’s home.
Grandmaster Lee Shing with his student Joseph Cheng was a key figure in promoting the art of Wing Chun at this time. He had begun studying under Grandmaster Lee Shing in 1965 and was the first person to teach Wing Chun openly in the U.K., opening the first Wing Chun School in Europe in 1970. In 1976, with Grandmaster Lee Shing’s blessing, Joseph Cheng wrote the first book ever published on the hitherto secret techniques of the wooden dummy form of Wing Chun called ‘Chong Woo Kwan Wing Chun’ - The Art of Simultaneous Defence and Attack’.
Other students of Grandmaster Lee Shing had begun to teach and open schools. Eddie Yeoh has a Wing Chun school run by some of his senior students. He currently runs an actors agency in the U.K. Nigel Fan, (who passed away recently) was the first and only Chinese qualified stuntman in the U.K. also studied under Grandmaster Lee Shing. He had established many Wing Chun instructors and had a Wing Chun school in London.
Grandmaster Lee Shing brought Wing Chun to Europe and was a major influence on the development of Wing Chun in the western world, for many years Grandmaster Lee Shing had a close friendship with Grandmaster Yip Chun, eldest son of Yip Man. There was great mutual respect on both sides. After Grandmaster Yip Chun’s arrival in Hong Kong from China they were introduced in the famous Yang’s restaurant by Grandmaster Yip Man. Whenever he visited the U.K. Grandmaster Yip Chun would visit Grandmaster Lee Shing and stay in his house as an honoured guest to discuss amongst other things the further promotion of Wing Chun in U.K. and Europe.
Sadly Grandmaster Lee Shing passed away in 1991 and since that time Joseph Man and Joseph Lee has begun to follow in his Master’s footsteps and teach openly the art of Wing Chun.
This article is dedicated to honour the memory of Grandmaster Lee Shing, the Wing Chun Family especially of the Lee Shing lineage. He lives on through the spirit and practise of all of his students and their teachings. It is hoped that his great skill and learning will be better understood. He taught not simply how to be skilful in the art of Wing Chun but how to develop the respect and discipline that is essential for all those who practice martial arts. His place in the history of Wing Chun is secure.
Though he was always one to shun the spotlight, the late Grandmaster Lee Shing should be given full credit for bringing the Chinese martial art of Wing Chun to United Kingdom. Thanks to him, a whole new generation of kung fu instructors have spread the art far and wide. Those who trained under the grandmaster are many and varied. They include Hau Bin Sum, Chan Man Kune, Joseph Cheng, Joseph Man, Eddie Yeoh, Sam Kwok, Simon Lau, Nigel Fan, Austin Goh and of course Joseph Lee."